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❄️☃️Merry Jerry🎄🌲
@jerry@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

I didn't sleep well last night so had way way way too much caffeine to compensate and that usually leads me to strange thoughts. Today's strange thought: I see parallels between what cell phones did to telephone service audio quality and what Cloudflare is doing to internet availability.

My fellow hose drinkers will remember the MCI ads about hearing a pin drop on a phone call to the other side of the world, and from there it was a race to have the best audio quality. Then cell phones came and the convenience was so compelling that no one gives a crap about audit quality now, so long as it's intelligible.

I see the same sort of thing happening with Cloudflare - it's so convenient that we are coming to accept outages (NB: it's not just cloudflare, they are just on my mind - also AWS, Azure, et al), and it makes me wonder if 5 years how we are going to be thinking about high availability Internet services.

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TheConstructor (he/him)
@TheConstructor@social.tchncs.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jerry why wonder about availability, when LLMs are shoved into everything? Also at least for me phone audio improved in recent years. CD players on the other hand are becoming worse. I understand, that it's no longer mainstream, but why are there only crap options remaining?

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T2R
@T2R@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@jerry I too was up till a bit past 1am after consuming a caffeinated drink later than I should have. I had better uptime when hosting everything myself. All the (forced) addition of a CDN has done is to introduce outages to our site.

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rx13 :possum_cursing: :donor:
@rx13@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jerry
I've also thought about this, and had a similar realization. However, I considered what the human cost is of "5 9s", and how people have come to expect instant availability, instant convenience, and the way that's changed society.

I'm kind of ok with normalizing 95% even? Like companies used to have maintenance windows, etc. Critical services like healthcare and emergency centers can't do downtime obviously, understandably, so there will always be some segments of as close to 100% as possible. But maybe 100% as the standard isn't what we need.

None of which negates the issue of skill centralization, and loss of engineering talent within organizations that can't do HA deployments if it weren't for Cloudflare and Cloud anymore

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rk: it’s hyphen-minus actually
@rk@mastodon.well.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jerry

I’ve started seeing ads touting “an 100% human support staff” so I expect people to start paying a premium to interact with human things and not chat bots.

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@DaveFlater@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jerry Cf. music audio quality when MP3 displaced CDs. Cf. photo quality when the first generation of absolutely horrible digital cameras displaced film. Digital imagery eventually surpassed film but music audio quality never recovered.

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