ChatGPT:
Why this hasn’t happened yet
Because we skipped step 2 and 3.
The fediverse tried to:
Educate users first
Sell ideology
Expose complexity early
Mass systems do the opposite.
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So it regurgitates shit that others have written, such as the tech writera who typically stopped by for 5 minutes and are still shrilling on X. At the same time blowing shit up your arse.
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@SuperMoosie yes, basically. But between all the shit there are some gems of good points.
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It doesn't have good points.
It isn't intelligent.
It regurgitates.
Any one who thinks it has good points ISN'T intelligent.
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ME: be honest with me, does the fediverse have a future?
ChatGPT: Short answer: yes — but not as “the next Twitter.”
Honest, non-hype take 👇
The fediverse does have a future because
The problem it solves is real and permanent
Centralized platforms will keep enshittifying. That cycle isn’t going away. The fediverse is the only large-scale, working alternative that breaks the ownership + control model.
Protocols outlive platforms
Email, RSS, SMTP, XMPP — boring, resilient, decades old. ActivityPub fits that lineage. Even if Mastodon vanished tomorrow, the protocol wouldn’t.
Institutional adoption is starting (slowly, but meaningfully)
Universities, NGOs, EU institutions, libraries, public broadcasters, and governments experimenting is a very different signal than VC hype.
It already won in niches
Tech, open source, academia, civic orgs, journalism. Not hypothetical — it’s happening.
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ChatGPT: But here’s the hard truth
It will never win mass consumers by default
Most people:
Don’t want to choose instances
Don’t care about federation
Want “just works” + dopamine
UX and onboarding are still bad
Not “a bit rough” — objectively hostile to non-technical users.
Fragmentation is both feature and tax
Freedom comes with coordination cost. Always has.
No dominant economic engine (yet)
That’s good for values, bad for speed and polish.
So what kind of future does it have?
Think less Facebook and more email + blogs + podcasts.
The fediverse is likely to become:
A public digital commons
The default for civic, academic, and open communities
A fallback when platforms implode
A substrate other products build on (not a destination itself)
It’s not a replacement.
It’s infrastructure.
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Me: what would be a scenario that generates mass adoption?
ChatGPT: Alright, mass adoption is possible — but it requires a very specific chain of events. Not vibes, not “people waking up,” but structural shifts.
Here’s the most realistic mass-adoption scenario, step by step.
1. A distribution shock (not a moral awakening)
Mass adoption never happens because users care about ethics. It happens because something breaks.
Examples of shocks that could do it:
A major platform locks accounts behind pay / identity / region
A catastrophic algorithm change that kills reach for everyone
Government-forced platform exits (EU, Brazil, India, Canada)
AI-generated spam overwhelms centralized moderation
A platform collapses financially or politically
Key point:
People don’t migrate to the fediverse.
They flee from something else.
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ChatGPT:
2. A single “boring” on-ramp brand
Not Mastodon. Not “the fediverse.”
Mass users adopt brands, not protocols.
Think:
“Threads, but you can leave”
“Public Square”
“Gov.social”
“Campus.social”
“News.social”
Behind the scenes it’s ActivityPub.
Up front it’s just an app.
👉 This is email vs Gmail logic.
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