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@abucci@buc.ci  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
In the schools and churches of Springfield, Ohio, people are making hasty preparations for a “large deportation” promised by the president. To all appearances, and according to local sources, the city is two or three days away from a federal ethnic cleansing, grounded in a hate campaign organized by the vice-president and American Nazis. The destined victims are ten thousand or more Haitians.
From Timothy Snyder's substack. Note the use of the phrases "ethnic cleansing" and "hate campaign", which are accurate. Snyder later states, regarding his use of the word "Nazi", "I use the word advisedly". It's well worth reading what he says about that. J.D. Vance's words led to a self-professed US Nazi group terrorizing Springfield Ohio. Snyder spells out how the hyperreality--the non-existent parallel and false world Vance set in motion and then Trump amplified--is turning into real-world consequences for real people.

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Ethnic Cleansing in Ohio?

Nazi Lies in Vance's America
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@lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@abucci

Someone noted that ICE agents are apparently now just seizing people's phones without more procedure, and keeping them.
Which is robbery, and even armed robbery since ICE is armed.
Is that actionable ?

I mean, keeping the rule of law is a way to refuse the lie, as you wrote.

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@abucci@buc.ci replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
@lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net I am not a lawyer; nor am I deeply studied in the legalities, so you should double and triple check anything I say, and if it ever comes to it, speak to a lawyer.

That said, my understanding is that if you are not under arrest, ICE has no right to access your phone unless they have a judicial warrant. You can file a criminal complaint of theft in the local jurisdiction where it happened (local politicians sometimes recommend this: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/06/06/metro/ice-immigration-rights-bystander/ ). The Alasaad v. McAleenan ruling found such searches unconstitutional. I don't know what followup rulings might have occurred or whether the consensus has shifted since then. You definitely do not need to consent to a search either of your person or of your phone.

Even if arrested, you are not required to speak to anyone other than to say "I wish to remain silent", "I do not consent to a search", and "I wish to speak to an attorney". You are entitled to contact an attorney. They will confiscate your belongings, but you do not need to tell them the password to unlock your phone.

Practically speaking, this is an agency that is willing to shoot people dead knowing that even the president will openly spread lies about what happened. They will almost surely threaten someone to unlock their phone and will take a copy of its contents regardless of whether they are legally entitled to do that. How much one resists is a question of how much danger one anticipates and what they are comfortable with risking. I'm definitely in no position to make recommendations about something like that.
American Civil Liberties Union

Federal Court Rules Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional | American Civil Liberties Union

Government Must Have Reasonable Suspicion of Digital Contraband Before Searching Electronic Devices at the U.S. Border
BostonGlobe.com

Witnessing an ICE arrest? Here are your rights. - The Boston Globe

Amid a surge of arrests, Attorney General Andrea Campbell recently issued guidance for Massachusetts immigrants and bystanders on how to respond to federal immigration officials.
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@abucci@buc.ci replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
In the schools and churches of Springfield, Ohio, people are making hasty preparations for a “large deportation” promised by the president. To all appearances, and according to local sources, the city is two or three days away from a federal ethnic cleansing, grounded in a hate campaign organized by the vice-president and American Nazis. The destined victims are ten thousand or more Haitians.
From Timothy Snyder's substack. Note the use of the phrases "ethnic cleansing" and "hate campaign", which are accurate. Snyder later states, regarding his use of the word "Nazi", "I use the word advisedly". It's well worth reading what he says about that. J.D. Vance's words led to a self-professed US Nazi group terrorizing Springfield Ohio. Snyder spells out how the hyperreality--the non-existent parallel and false world Vance set in motion and then Trump amplified--is turning into real-world consequences for real people.

#USPol #ICE #history #authoritarianism #tyranny #resistance #resist #narrative #immigration #Haiti

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@abucci@buc.ci replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago
The Trump-Vance lie that the city had been “destroyed,” the notion of “carnage,” the dehumanization of immigrants— all of this creates the impression that their promised ethnic cleansing action would be a response to something, rather than a simple choice to exercise state violence against an invented racial enemy. These reversals are very important. It is important to consider this carefully.

First, Vance reported that the Nazi propaganda campaign that he had himself inspired amounted to factual evidence. Mental chaos has been created where there was none before. And then that mental chaos becomes the justification for physical chaos: Trump’s “large deportations,” ICE raids that will, in fact, wreck an improving local economy. And once that physical chaos has been created, it will be blamed on the immigrants who are no longer there. Most of this has already played out. A key threshold, which it appears that we are about to cross, is the application of the state violence. At that point, so to speak, the lie is supposed to become “true.”
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