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Em :official_verified:
Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

Do not comply.

Do not share your ID or biometric data with abusive platforms requesting it. You have a choice to say no, complain, and leave.

This is an important act of resistance for the future of humanity.

This isn't just about privacy, this is also about safety, diversity, democracy, and human rights.

#Privacy #MassSurveillance #HumanRights #Fascism #AgeVerification #IdentityVerification

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Micdan
Micdan
@micdan@mstdn.party  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@Em0nM4stodon We have to break the goddamn law to protect ourselves nowadays...

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Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :paw:⁠:paw:
Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :paw:⁠:paw:
@catsalad@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon It's SO BAD too

https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed

Malwarebytes

Age verification vendor Persona left frontend exposed, researchers say

Behind a basic age check, researchers say Persona’s system runs extensive identity, watchlist, and adverse-media screening.
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Cute Penguin
Cute Penguin
@CutePenguin@mastodon.ml  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@catsalad
Evil is welcome in future, which we have been waiting for so much...
You all want technical progress, you all want super technology from your favorite anime and manga?..
Well, here you go, here you go...
So in song singing,
"Do you feel unhappy, XXI Century Man?.."
Similar technologies for about 10 years already are used in Russian Federation, but here it is, on your street comrade Major...
But, please, only don't fall to Luddite hysteria!! Progress don't return back!!
@Em0nM4stodon

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Softwarewolf
Softwarewolf
@faoluin@chitter.xyz  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@catsalad @Em0nM4stodon Cc @FirewallDragons for this article

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Simon Zerafa (Status: 🙂🖥️🪛💾)
Simon Zerafa (Status: 🙂🖥️🪛💾)
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@catsalad @Em0nM4stodon

The link to the original blog posting:

https://vmfunc.re/blog/persona

The only winning move is not to play.

vmfunc.re

the watchers: how openai, the US government, and persona built an identity surveillance machine that files reports on you to the feds

53MB of source code leaked from a government endpoint. 269 verification checks. biometric face databases. SAR filings to FinCEN. and the same company that verifies your ChatGPT account.
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Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :paw:⁠:paw:
Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :paw:⁠:paw:
@catsalad@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@simonzerafa @Em0nM4stodon Thank you! I'm way more interested in the researcher's published finding :3

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Simon Zerafa (Status: 🙂🖥️🪛💾)
Simon Zerafa (Status: 🙂🖥️🪛💾)
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@catsalad

Use the Source! 😉

I need to finish reading the article, but the bits I did read were interesting.

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ConstellationUnion
ConstellationUnion
@ConstellationUnion@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon

Biometrics are more taken than asked for is my theory.

retnal scanning, face scanning, all of it is as old as computer science. When has permission ever been given?
Discord has been in the news from the beginning about research on the methods.
people just don't care since they just want their apps.
shiny new smelling apps any app.... ..

then, people are taught that as long as it's a private sector endeavor it must be good for you.

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TroikaFox
TroikaFox
@DenDu68@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon
Boosted, and I hope everyone in the Fediverse sees it

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Em :official_verified:
Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@DenDu68 💚

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skoczek :fedora:
skoczek :fedora:
@gruby@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon Just do not do so.
No system is safe. No one guarantees privacy and data keep.

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numanumayey
numanumayey
@breathOfLife@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon

i'm not gonna sugarcoat it.

age verification laws are a #PersonaBackdoor

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Em :official_verified:
Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@breathOfLife Well said

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numanumayey
numanumayey
@breathOfLife@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon

can we make this the hashtag when referring to things?

or would something like #IDBackdoor, or #PrivacyBackdoor make more sense to the average person on the street?

either way, the point is, #ageverification sounds way too nice for what it actually entails in practice and #deanonymization sounds too posh

actually #LegalBackdoor makes more sense, because these laws are unironically a security issue that forces admins to adopt questionable security practices that are then exploited by crackers.

(then again, if that happened, the governments could also have admins on the hook for bad data management if a breach happened...)

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Jasper The Wolf
Jasper The Wolf
@fluffywolfjasper@furries.club  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon all stuff which the west prides itself on and forces onto the entire world, meanwhile doin exactly the opposite of that.

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Bendik
Bendik
@bendik@bendik.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon This this this. I just came back to the fediverse after fully leaving Meta and Snapchat ++ behind. I guess I’m leaving Discord soon too.

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Phracker
@Phracker2Art@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon
We need to boycott any platforms that request personally identifying information. They won't stop doing it until we hit them where it hurts - in the wallet.

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Jeff Atwood
Jeff Atwood
@codinghorror@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Phracker2Art @Em0nM4stodon “but my friends are there” well, get more and better friends.

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Simon Zerafa (Status: 🙂🖥️🪛💾)
Simon Zerafa (Status: 🙂🖥️🪛💾)
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Phracker2Art @Em0nM4stodon

Already underway! 🙂🖖

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Em :official_verified:
Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@simonzerafa @Phracker2Art 🖖

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Em :official_verified:
Em :official_verified:
@Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Phracker2Art 1000

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TheZwick32
TheZwick32
@TheZwick32@hachyderm.io  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon
Check out the list of companies that can access ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL DATA through the most popular facial tracking company, Persona:

https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/116103192779110422

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always tired
always tired
@project1enigma@chaos.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@TheZwick32 @Em0nM4stodon and persona is linked to Thiel

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Fluffy Kitty Cat
Fluffy Kitty Cat
@fluffykittycat@furry.engineer  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@project1enigma @TheZwick32 @Em0nM4stodon who in turn is linked to Epstein

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always tired
always tired
@project1enigma@chaos.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@fluffykittycat @TheZwick32 @Em0nM4stodon Exactly.

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MarinaAbramovic'sInvisible Man
MarinaAbramovic'sInvisible Man
@VoxOfGod@beige.party  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon if it is something you WANT to see for any valid reason including curiosity* figure out how to get it surreptitiously...an easy example is to troll friends online who have consumed the info already, there are many ways to procure content, foia and lawsuits being legal, and of course I would never advocate breaking any laws.

Especially now. For all our protection.

But encourage the little daily praxes as a way to stay aware, nimble and reàdy for good opportunities

*As long as the curiosities are not, like, Epstein class

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ava_doll
ava_doll
@avadoll11@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon That’s deep. I never thought about it like that. Saying no to sharing my data feels kinda rebellious now. Power to the people!

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GreatLakeTrout
GreatLakeTrout
@greatlaketrout@noc.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon

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Intaglio Whitegraven
Intaglio Whitegraven
@Intaglio_Dragon@furry.engineer  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon Whenever I see discussions about online ID/age verification come up, I tend to see a few people speaking up about ZKP (zero knowledge proofs). Admittedly, I know almost nothing about it, but a cursory read on the subject makes it sound like it could be a solution to the problem.

Of course, this is assuming that one takes the stated/claimed problems (e.g. protecting age-restricted spaces from those who are underage) at face value. When it's more likely that the goal of these programs is broad surveillance and control, which nobody would willingly accept if it was presented so plainly.

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Fluffy Kitty Cat
Fluffy Kitty Cat
@fluffykittycat@furry.engineer  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon even if it worked (no one can explain toe how.their system is both anonymous and can't be gamed by someone handing out ZKP tokens like Halloween candy) there's also the matter.that we're giving unaccountable control of what people under 18/25/whatever can see or do to people who freely admit they want to do anti LGBT stuff with it, and that's just the start. What else will whoever decides this deem "harmful to Minors"

The whole thing's evil

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did I mention I eat ass
did I mention I eat ass
@etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon there is no technical solution to governments imposing authoritarian policies.

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did I mention I eat ass
did I mention I eat ass
@etsyy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon if verifying id was actually the goal (not to mention a useful or productive goal), perhaps, but it's almost always a means of tracking and controlling populations. offering concessions to that pursuit is ridiculous

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Fluffy Kitty Cat
Fluffy Kitty Cat
@fluffykittycat@furry.engineer  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@etsyy @Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon even suggesting it helps legitimize it. And we k.ow that they won't be using your bespoke crypto. They're uploading your ID to the pedophile Nazi vampire peter thiel, who then scans against 34 police databases (hey! We were promised this was just an age check!) And then leaves it so insecure the people who leak it Can't be called hackers because they didn't even have to hack anything to get all of it

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DB
DB
@lawyersgunsnmoney@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon Another example is LinkedIn

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Nömenlōony
Nömenlōony
@nomenloony@nomenloony.com  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon looking at you, #Discord

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Grow Fediverse
Grow Fediverse
@growfediverse@dillyofapickle.com  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Em0nM4stodon Remember these cowards for years told you that it was too costly & complex to follow laws to keep you safe.

Tech bros when the law protects consumers: "It's too hard, there's nothing we can do"

Tech bros when the law wants them to narc to fascists: "We must comply right away, so tomorrow we're globally rolling out our new Buttverify system, our new ai agent that crawls up your anus and takes a picture to send to your country's Customs agency."

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