I was this close to registering a domain name & creating a splash page to expose why https://wsocial.eu is such a terrible idea.
Why did I stop?
I have a big hunch that their initiative is going to FLOP. Big time.
A fork of Bluesky that requires government ID to post? Bahahahahaha.
Sure you can have rich and powerful friends helping you launch at Davos but getting people excited about a new social network isn't easy.
I will use my limited time in propping up the fediverse instead ✊
@_elena
Ha! I just registered wsocial.ca (My main domains are wheeli.social and wheeli.ca so it's a nice short form).
Well. I shouldn't browse the Fediverse at night. I might buy a domain I don't need!
@papa EPIC!!! And you just inspired me to register a couple of domains later this morning 😂 (gotta get my little one to nursery school first)
@_elena
Please do it - with a direct link to the fediverse. 😎
@_elena I saw your post in the morning, so ... yeah, during lunch I've started a single page in czech language on https://wsocial.cz which explains folks a few things about Fediverse and directs them to other resources 🥰
@kayla you're the BEST Kayla!!!!!! Bravissima! I hope I'll get to thank you in person at FOSDEM :)
I was this close to registering a domain name & creating a splash page to expose why https://wsocial.eu is such a terrible idea.
Why did I stop?
I have a big hunch that their initiative is going to FLOP. Big time.
A fork of Bluesky that requires government ID to post? Bahahahahaha.
Sure you can have rich and powerful friends helping you launch at Davos but getting people excited about a new social network isn't easy.
I will use my limited time in propping up the fediverse instead ✊
@_elena I believe that several thousand Europeans will participate in this nonsense, either out of curiosity or, mainly, out of stupidity.
@_elena
Wait, there's *another* Euro/Blue/Sky?
Nothing to do with the one from the Modal Foundation (NL)?
https://www.eurosky.social/about
@_elena I am delighted to have you and your commitment on the side of Fediverse. A driven and passionate champion for what truly matters: a decentralised internet for everyone.
@AccordingtoWouter thank you Wouter 💖
@_elena One thing the fediverse has going for it is if you really wanted to create a Real Name space, you can do it in a much more sane way - by adding people you meet in the physical world and federating with like-minded instances.
Probably this would be most useful if you are running a school or something and want to provide a social media situation for the students?
@_elena I wonder what datacenters they are going to run that in? AWS? Lol
@_elena Haha. Eurobros got owned!
They thought if they have the connections to Davos, they can just cash in on some half-assed work, which sells your data.
@_elena you did them a service by even mentioning them because had you invested time into other projects I would have known about them and now instead I know about Wsocial. :)
@_elena do we know that it is a bluesky fork? I was trying to figure out if they were gonna use an established base or just build a proprietary platform
@doktorzjivago @tante @_elena that's not even really a wsocial account despite the handle showing as such in the screenshot, it seems like the app is just replacing ".bsky.social" with "wsocial.eu" for Bsky accounts.
@doktorzjivago @ikuturso @_elena that's not hard, bluesky/AT proto use domains as username. So if you set up you wsocial domain in a way to deliver the right DNS records that's basically a built-in feature. You can do that without any changes to the code
@doktorzjivago @_elena Okay, they are really just doing the blacksky thing with a few bell and whistles
@doktorzjivago @_elena Eurosky is just shady as hell with weird overlaps between that project and the free the feeds campaign and "supporters" and whatnot. Just a very weird thing.
@_elena it’s also a little troubling they left off Mastodon from Europe as to indicate there is nothing currently in Europe. Liars
@64bithero they’re basically a fork of Bluesky and it’s a little jarring that they didn’t reach out to the EuroSky people… like was this lazy, lack of research or intentional? 🤡
@_elena
This obsession with IDs should stop. We need more liberty and freedom.
The EU could have chosen to transfer their public communication to Mastodon and people would probably follow.
We don't need another algo driven propaganda and data harvesting machine.
@v4rd4453n hilariously no, as far as I can tell. They’re not even try to collaborate with existing things 🤪
@_elena @v4rd4453n Eurobros just as bad as their American techbro cousins!
@_elena It's a Bluesky fork? My bet was on them pulling a Truth Social with Mastodon code.
Whatever it is, it's just an opportunistic attempt to try to capitalize on people leaving an American service.
@_elena Free the internet! Fediverse is all we need ♥️
@_elena next year in Davos 🤣
@_elena I love how they leave the circle in Europe empty as if the Fediverse/Mastodon does not exist. Well, let em fail.
@_elena it's going to flop because of the ID requirement.
@_elena it does speak to the fact the Fediverse isn't gaining the traction it should. I think a centralised, non-profit social media could do very well in Europe.
@caffetino @_elena the Fediverse doesn't need to constantly gain traction. It just needs to continue to exist, maturing and becoming better over time. Linux has taken over thirty years to become flavour of the month. As the movie said, build it and they will come.
@skribe @caffetino @_elena When I hear “it’s gaining traction” I tend to think about lnfluencers, paid marketing and US startups. I much prefer things that grow organically. That brings to me ideas of community and word-of-mouth, of people telling others about something because they value that something. The Fediverse is growing organically, and in my opinion, it’s a much healthier way to grow.
@dmian @skribe @_elena I agree that the Fediverse is growing organically, and that this is a good thing. I enjoy being here and the community feel (and the fact I know I'm not being manipulated by an algorithm).
I think there should be something else too though. Most friends and colleagues haven't heard of the fediverse (until I mention it) and then tell me it's 'too complex to join' before then joining Bluesky. These are folks in tech and science, so if anyone should be interested in this, it's them.
If they think it's too longwinded for them, then I think a centrally managed alternative is necessary, as an alternative to BSky and X. Ideally, IMHO, this should be something compatible with the Fediverse.
@caffetino @dmian @skribe @_elena yep, the idea that social networking needs to be able to achieve hyper growth is based on the premise that it will subsequently turn a profit. But do we actually want our socialising to be profitable to someone? I would say not.
Tech bros are trying to crowbar themselves in to the middle of your hangouts in order to make a quid. I say fuck that.
@_elena wsoci.al is available and I might snap that
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