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Thom, Itanium™ influencer
Thom, Itanium™ influencer
@thomholwerda@exquisite.social  ·  activity timestamp last week

The Dutch version of the BBC (very simply put) has started consistently stating in every article about Trump that he has a history of lying and saying nonsense. It's really satisfying.

"President Trump, who often lies, said that..."

It's a small thing, but it cheers me up.

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Maria Langer | 📝💎🌵🛥️
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@mlanger@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@thomholwerda @User47 I wish an English-speaking media outlet on this side of the Atlantic had the guts to do that.

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rve.rc
rve.rc
@rvedotrc@tech.lgbt replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda "President Trump said something today, but given that he lies and goes back on his word so often, there's really no point telling you what it is that he said."

Next story.

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🔹 Jakob Givoni
🔹 Jakob Givoni
@jgivoni@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@rvedotrc @thomholwerda Exactly. What Trump says is not the story.

The story is what he's doing or what you think he is trying to do. Tell us that story, - if it's news. Use his words as evidence when relevant.

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nieuemma
nieuemma
@nieuemma@mastodon.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda I vepueve it was Adam Neely, a bassist, who I heard say "Repetition Legitimizes". This holds true is much more than musical context.

The more we say it, the more people will internalize it and really understand it.

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Chris Fox
Chris Fox
@foxcj@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@nieuemma @thomholwerda Indeed, repetition legitimises. (… sorry, just couldn't resist …)

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annaf
annaf
@annaf@climatejustice.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda we were saying earlier how the BBC gives his words weight they simply don’t deserve by even attempting to analyse whatever statement he made last. Completely agree with this approach, he’ll say the opposite in a week’s time when it’s so his advantage so whatever.

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Bob Thomson
Bob Thomson
@bobthomson70@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda maybe in time it will be corrected to, “who sometimes tells the truth”.

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Jos 🍉
Jos 🍉
@goleztrol@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda @bobthomson70 .. by accident,"

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Menno
Menno
@MennoWolff@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda
You mean NOS right?
I noticed that too. I think it was around the time he was making threats about Greenland.
They suddenly said "Trump said XYZ, which is a lie, because..."
Before that they would always say "Trump said XYZ, but didn't provide any evidence for it"
I'm happy they have stopped cowering and are calling out the outright lies.
@NOS

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Grant
Grant
@gsymon@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda

To give this some context, the Washington Post found that Obama's false or misleading claims *across 2 terms (8 years)* was 11. Yes that's 11, as in an average of 5.5 per term as President.

If Trump's mouth is open ... he's lying.

#TrumpLies #Trump #Republicans #MoralVacuums #MAGAMorons

A screen-grab of The Washington Post's Fact Checker Analysis, created during Donal Trump's first term in office:
In four years, President Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims.
A screen-grab of The Washington Post's Fact Checker Analysis, created during Donal Trump's first term in office: In four years, President Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims.
A screen-grab of The Washington Post's Fact Checker Analysis, created during Donal Trump's first term in office: In four years, President Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims.
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The Doctor
The Doctor
@drwho@masto.hackers.town replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda What is the news outlet's name, so I can add it to Edison?

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Tim Panton
Tim Panton
@steely_glint@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@thomholwerda I'm waiting for DW.com to call him 'Machthaber' in stead of 'President' - which they seem to do for leaders the German Govt disapproves of!

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Chris Pitts
Chris Pitts
@thirstybear@agilodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thomholwerda @RonJeffries Now we just need to have the UK BBC do the same and lead by example. (I noticed The Guardian has started doing something similar. Some of the live update comments/asides are hilarious and tragic in equal measure)

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Peter Brown
Peter Brown
@peterbrown@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thomholwerda it’s a very sensible comment because we know that he lies continuously and the television station have a basic obligation to the viewers not to accord to him a level of veracity that he simply lacks.

In practice, of course, it also spares them the bother of having to fact check absolutely everything he says.
Which would take forever as he is about as mendacious as they come.

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David - Forking Mad
David - Forking Mad
@daj@gofer.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thomholwerda love that. Quality reporting.

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Ian
@soviut@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thomholwerda Every news agency should report it like this. Instead, they not only reiterate what he says as if it's fact, they often end up sane-washing his rambling incoherent bs.

If a toddler was throwing a temper tantrum their headline would be "Toddler seeks amendments in bed time talks".

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Gif's Artidote
Gif's Artidote
@poisonpunk@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@thomholwerda
whoever decided that at the #NOS has made me a little bit proud to be dutch.. that feels weird knowing all the imperialist & fascists things the government does now & always.

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Lucy B
Lucy B
@lucybeahere@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@thomholwerda

It seems so obvious, and it’s infuriating that here in the US they don’t do that.

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Ruud is at Fosdem
Ruud is at Fosdem
@ruuda@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@thomholwerda Also https://www.nu.nl/blog/6382843/journalistiek-moet-amerikaanse-dreiging-serieus-nemen.html

DPG Media Privacy Gate

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