Well, I switched back to @StartpageSearch for my search after a few years of using DuckDuckGo , but then almost immediately read that they (Stargpage) launched their own AI service.
What fucking search engine can I use that doesn't use AI? This is just utterly fucking ridiculous.
#fuckai #noai #ai
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https://vanish.startpage.com is the Startpage AI search service.
If a company, in any way, is using AI in their services that they offer, it's a no from me. I just won't support companies that are jumping on the AI wagon and then pushing it out to their customers.
@cmccullough them too? Geez
@cmthiede Yep! Hugely disappointed.
@StartpageSearch
Sorry, not heard of this. Is there any article on this you can recommend?
(It's not startpage dot ai right? That one seems to be another company altogether, owned by BluePenguin, LCC. Some tab manager for Safari, iOS)
Yeah, it's incredibly grim :(
I feel like I'm back in 2019 and everything was keen to tell me about their blockchain integration. I expect it will have as much longevity too (or at least, we can only hope).
@StartpageSearch Okay, I know about DDG and their "noai" service. They are still pushing AI.
@vgarzareyna @StartpageSearch I know about it, but they are still pushing AI.
I keep coming to this topic, almost weekly at this point. Right now, the best I can recommend are @Mojeek and @MetaGer They are what I have been using and I highly recommend them both, but they're not perfect solutions for everyone.
The catch with Mojeek is it is closed source and for profit, but it is still a very good independent project. While MetaGer is opensource and nonprofit, you will still have to make a small donation to use it (I have been paying $10 every quarter or so).
There is also SearXNG, but it has its own drawbacks as well, though you can selfhost it.
Whenever this topic comes up, you will always get people who bring up noai.duckduckgo.com, but that doesn't fix the issue that they are still promoting and benefiting from their own LLMs.
@terminaltilt @cmccullough
Personally, I use https://search.disroot.org/.
What do you think about it?
(Another possibility would be https://frogfind.com - "for vintage computers" - however http only.)
Personally, I use https://search.disroot.org/.
What do you think about it?
(Another possibility would be https://frogfind.com - "for vintage computers" - however http only.)
@fasnix I will check them out. Thanks!
@terminaltilt
@disroot is a wonderful organization and was my first stop when I started my deGoogle journey. Search.disroot.org is basically a SearXNG instance and it is really good.
I honestly forgot about it because I was using it for abit and they had some server issues and I jumped to other options and didn't come back. Thank you for reminding me about it!
@terminaltilt Nice! Thanks for sharing.
@fasnix @disroot
@terminaltilt Thanks! And totally agree with DDG and noai.
@StartpageSearch @Mojeek @MetaGer
@EdCates Thanks! I've heard of them and will check them out. @StartpageSearch @Em0nM4stodon