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I'm working on a YouTube mini series explaining the Fediverse!!
Who are the most knowledgeable people in this realm who I should definitely talk to?
What do you think is important to include in my series? I want to hear thoughts!!
I would say Cory Doctorow because he's had a lot of practice explaining the Fediverse from high level, close up, and different angles.
@taylorlorenz I think it's definitely important to include that 2008's StatusNet is what eventually became ActivityPub
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Things to talk about: The history of the fediverse before Mastodon.
People to talk to who haven't been mentioned ITT yet: @silverpill . He has written standards for self-custody of keys on fedi.
@taylorlorenz My name came up in a non-public subthread.
A lot of what I would have to say has been documented in the "people's history" type articles written about a decade back by Robek and Strypey, about the early, pre-Masto Fediverse from a user and social perspective, but I could be helpful with clarifications. (I'll try to locate those articles)
Like many others have pointed out, I would say Evan, CWebber and Gargron have key perspectives not to leave out from a history, protocol, development and hosting perspective, and for modern hosting perspectives and broadness of software and ways of running communities, I'd talk to Jerry and Darius.
I think all of these people have been at-mentioned elsewhere in the thread and I won't spam them further here.
Another interesting branch of the Fediverse historically is the one with Quitter, En Kompis Kompis, Freesocial and the Umeå Hackerspace, but I'm not sure where to find mmn, pettter and peer2hannes these days. If I @ them here, my server gives me the defunct Umeå Hackerspace server.
Oh, and I hope someone digs out that beautiful fedi software landscape poster from that workshop a few years ago.
@taylorlorenz Amazing! Thank you for doing this! 💚
@taylorlorenz if she’s available, you should talk with @Em0nM4stodon here herself about this topic, especially if you need good perspective from someone other than a technical server operator 👀
@taylorlorenz if she’s available, you should talk with @Em0nM4stodon here herself about this topic, especially if you need good perspective from someone other than a technical server operator 👀
@cwebber ? She co-authored the protocol !
@taylorlorenz @ntnsndr if he hasn’t gotten on your list yet.
perhaps one issue to bring up that most others won't is the perspective of the widely blocked servers.
they say it's their non left perspectives. admins who block them will say it's mostly harassment and that their users post hate and misinfo.
managing this is a struggle on a truly decentralized network. no algo means people can mostly not see what they don't want to. to grow, we should want conservatives here too, but we'll also lose users if there's lots of unwanted tagging.
perhaps one issue to bring up that most others won't is the perspective of the widely blocked servers.
they say it's their non left perspectives. admins who block them will say it's mostly harassment and that their users post hate and misinfo.
managing this is a struggle on a truly decentralized network. no algo means people can mostly not see what they don't want to. to grow, we should want conservatives here too, but we'll also lose users if there's lots of unwanted tagging.
@taylorlorenz Be sure to include fediverse-aware YouTubers like @vkc / @posts and @thelinuxEXP
@taylorlorenz Be sure to include fediverse-aware YouTubers like @vkc / @posts and @thelinuxEXP
@taylorlorenz Be sure to include fediverse-aware YouTubers like @vkc and @thelinuxEXP
@taylorlorenz Be sure to include fediverse-aware YouTubers like @vkc and @thelinuxEXP
Man I didn't know you had many enemies.
You got quite the bit of defeds.
Lmfao they are you calling you a racist even though I've never seen you say anything edgy.
https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=liberal.city
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I'm very glad that tool exists but so many of those servers are tiny and full of users with very eccentric opinions. just counting them up can make you think it's worse than it is.
the blocks that bother me are democracy dot town, hachyderm dot io and mastodon dot art. I feel like those have impacted me. people I want to follow on them or people I know who use them. and they are bigger AFAIK.
Your feed is still "for you", but its "by you" now.
It is not made by an algorithm that builds it for you automatically. You have the power and responsibility to build it your self. Its more work but also more freedom.
There are many different bubbles/cultures in the fediverse and thus a variety of feed possibilities. From hyper political to just the plushieverse to just pictures of moss...
The Fediverse may not house as many people but that makes it more human and calmer often.
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@_elena !!!
You MUST include her and her work!
@taylorlorenz @phocks you definitely need to include plenty of trans representation, and other LGBTIQ groups. Most (but not all servers) are very inclusive, and openly declare that if you are unhappy around non traditional identities you probably should go elsewhere.
Yes, you are right. I like to say that the fediverse is a scrappy community project.
And through my own replies, as I've made a few, and looking through other people's replies, I don't get a sense that people here feel that the fediverse relies on a single person, or even a handful of people. I myself listed a few developers, but also people who create non-technical resources. And I tried to think of people who don't always get mentioned in these sort of lists -- and admittedly, I am still leaving important names out.
I was not joking when I said that this is why I barely ever do Follow Fridays, there are just too many people to remember!
Those starter packs can't get here soon enough.
@ricci @stefan@gardenstate.social @tchambers @alice @mastodonmigration @_elena @taylorlorenz @stux
@taylorlorenz In the German speaking realm: Linus Neumann https://23.social/@linuzifer, Tim Pritlove https://mastodon.social/@timpritlove
Gavin Karlmeier https://www.gavinkarlmeier.de
But I think they know their bit of English too.
@taylorlorenz What a question! The success has many fathers/mothers, so you will get as many responses.
No fediverse without ActivtyPub. Talk to the people who made ActivityPub. @Gargron was mentioned, but @cwebber and @evan are as important.
Talk to Arnaud Le Hors from IBM. He was chair of the Social Web WG for a very long time. A lot of myth around the creation of Activity Pub was build recently. What I like the most? People/Influencers mansplaining fediverse to @cwebber 😅
@taylorlorenz definitely absolutely @_elena
@taylorlorenz definitely ask @FediTips! They already do an amazing job at explaining the Fediverse and writing down tips for everyone :)
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Since hashtags are something you can follow in the Fediverse, talk to @paul who (among other things) runs the 9 o'clock #HashtagGames ( @hashtaggames ) as a common bubble-piercing activity here.
@taylorlorenz definitely speak with @jerry
Will they be on Peer Tube too? @taylorlorenz
@taylorlorenz I would definitely talk to @sabrinkmann. He’s doing a lot of different Mastodon/Fediverse projects and is the biggest enthusiast I know 💜
@taylorlorenz maybe @cwebber if she has the time, she authored the protocol fedi works on after all
@taylorlorenz Someone from the @gazaverified team?
Also, @jaz about content moderation
Make sure to include BIPoC, e.g. @Yehuda
@taylorlorenz i know things, i think. scream at me?
@taylorlorenz please not only tech people. We also have @_elena or @aemarielle or @davidrevoy
@taylorlorenz please not only tech people. We also have @_elena or @aemarielle or @davidrevoy
@taylorlorenz Suggest both @darius and @kissane
@taylorlorenz @_elena is very good at explaining Fediverse stuff 👍
@taylorlorenz Heard joke once: Woman goes to scientist. Says she's confused about the Fediverse. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says she feels all alone in a confusing culture where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain.
Scientist says, 'Treatment is simple. Great journalist Taylor Lorenz is in town tonight. Go and see her. That should answer all your questions.'
Woman bursts into tears. Says, 'But sir… I am Taylor.' Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.
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