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@sotolf@polymaths.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@rl_dane Well, I mean you could just use real X11;)

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@sotolf@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@rl_dane Well, I mean you could just use real X11;)

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@sotolf

But Sotolf, Wayland fixes EVERYTHING!
Also, Rust is the best programming language, and systemd has what linux craves!

#conform!!

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@sotolf@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@rl_dane Haha, I don't know why but the thought of me conforming is just very funny to me :p

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@sotolf

All the more to humor you, my dear!

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@fbievan@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rl_dane does it happen on other compositors?

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@fbievan

I only use KDE Plasma on this box (my work machine).

🤷‍♂️

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@ftranschel@norden.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rl_dane You need to tell us about your compositor, because that's where scaling happens. The integration of xwayland is key here.

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@ftranschel

Sorry, Plasma 6.3.6 on Debian Trixie.

I'll add it to the OP.

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@ftranschel@norden.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rl_dane Yeah sorry, you probably have already seen the link I'm going to post, but to my knowledge that's where things stand right now: https://discuss.kde.org/t/disable-scaling-for-x11-applications-when-using-xwayland/31089

You could try gnome or cosmic or some wlr-wm, ofc.

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@ftranschel

From what I read, I think they were discussing things being blurry when "Scaled by the system" is turned on. I understand that is a necessary outcome, as is things being to small when being displayed on the scale (1.85x) screen.

I also understand why things would appear small on the scaled display if "Apply scaling themselves" is turned on.

What I'm not understanding is why things (like UI elements in Krita or Kerbal Space Program) are teensy on the un-scaled monitor when "Apply scaling themselves" is turned on.

Tangential to this, is there a way to tell X11 applications to just completely ignore scaling?

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@ivan@possum.city replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rl_dane@polymaths.social

not only does X11 not handle fractional scaling very well, its support for multiple monitors is famously... bad. Let alone fractional scaling PLUS multiple monitor.

What's the app? And the compositor?

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@ivan

KDE Plasma 6.3.6

Any X11 app. nsxiv and Electron cRapps are the usual suspects for me.

I had no problems with KDE 5.27 X11, except that it couldn't do differential fractional scaling between two monitors.

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@ivan@possum.city replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rl_dane@polymaths.social

well yeah, this sounds more like an X11 issue then, I'm sorry bro

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@ivan

It's just weird that it's scaling things smaller.

Maybe the differential scaling is freaking it out.

Ah well. ;)

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@tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@rl_dane what desktop are you using?

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@rl_dane@polymaths.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@tragivictoria

KDE Plasma 6.3.6

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