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RE: https://mastodon.ie/@EugeneMcParland/115774870030202621

#Kiev was the name of the coffee shop where i first fell in love. it didn't work out but i still have the memory of that matzo ball soup. btw, that’s where i met Allen Ginsburg and Quentin Crisp. twas their favorite spot.

Veselka is the last remaining bastion of the East Village’s #Ukraina past. now that i columbused The Carol of The Bells is an ukrainian folk song, i get why i used to hear it everywhere here.

just reckoned, the East Village #xmas of yore is ukrainian.

so happy #kievmas

Bette

@Bette@mstdn.social replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva

You've lived a colorful, storied life, Aunti. Happy #kievmas

Dirk Ritter

@GNUmatic@mastodon.trueten.de replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva

Oh yeah!
Merry Christmas, Aunti! 🎅🥰

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

it’s really wild to me that, when you really think about it, all the #xmas celebrations that we think of as American, came out of #nyc; and a lot of those celebrations were basically based on traditions from #Ukraine and the Baltics:

- yule logs
- bell ringing
- #redwork #embroidery

the other part of this story is that the most famous American #Christmas songs were written by Jews. ironically, there’s a Canadian documentary about it:

Dreaming of a Jewish Christmas
https://ajff.org/film/dreaming-jewish-christmas

AJFF

S. Sanchez

@SeattleSanchez@social.ridetrans.it replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva I had to look up how to watch this and discovered it's on Kanopy! Folks can stream it for free with their library card in many US cities.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@SeattleSanchez thanks for the heads up. it’s a wonderful documentary.

Riley S. Faelan

@riley@toot.cat replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva So, in a sense, the classic story of American Jewish folks celebrating Christmas in the traditional way, by eating at Chinese food places, fits into the pattern.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@riley yeeeup. and a fine tradition that i’ve embraced for #atheismas

Riley S. Faelan

@riley@toot.cat replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva Hey, there's rabbis who would argue that atheists are basically indistinguishible from just very, very, very Reform Jews.

Gavin Chait;

@GavinChait@wandering.shop replied · yesterday

@riley @blogdiva there's a very old story I read as a kid about a group of rabbinical scholars who stayed up all night debating the torah. As the sun was rising, they decided to wrap things up & get some rest. One young scholar with a clear voice called out, "Wait wait! We haven't agreed if God exists yet!"

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · yesterday

@GavinChait @riley i love rabbinical jokes. judaism is way more life affirming, and therefore funnier, than the other 2 religions that forked from it. not believing in a hell has A LOT to do with that.

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

a #Jewish #Christmas #songbook

- The Christmas Song
- White Christmas
- Silver Bells
- Santa Baby
- Let it Snow
- Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer (which in the documentary they see as an allegory of Jews living in a world ran by christians)
- Chestnuts Roasting On An Open Fire
- It’s the Most Wonderful Time Of The Year
- Rocking Around the Christmas Tree
- A Holly, Jolly Christmas
- Walking in a Winter Wonderland
- Do you hear what i hear?
- I’ll be Home for Christmas
- Santa is coming to town

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

wow, that didn't take long.

blocked a fuckwad that insulted me because am pointing out that without #Ukraine and Jews of Eastern European ascendancy, there’s no American #Christmas

Bridge&Tunnel Jeff

@jf_718@mas.to replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva Saw that - blocked and reported

The Lady (La Donna)

@ldmay65@universeodon.com replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva
I love this thread. Thank you!
Interdependence. All religions, all traditions, come out of other religions and cultures. Especially, Christianity.
As a woman religious, whom I work for, once said, "Christianity is only around 2,000 years old." She is Catholic and also has a Buddha figurine in her apartment.

funnymonkey

@funnymonkey@freeradical.zone replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva
Yeah - that account was, well, something.

George B

@gbargoud@masto.nyc replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva

I saw that account and it looked like it was newly created for Russian trolling, AI avatar and all

Granny Art (Shrimp) (Joni)

@artcollisions@vis.social replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva How many of them were written by Irving Berlin? Do you know?

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@artcollisions about 3? apparently, he and Mel Tormé dominated the 1930s xmas songwriting.

Granny Art (Shrimp) (Joni)

@artcollisions@vis.social replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva Oh, see, I knew he dominated, but I didn't realize it was only 3. He was quite the chart topper with many of his songs though, wasn't he?

Anti-War Blog

@POConscience@mastodon.de replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva
Thanks for outing yourself. NAFO SCUM.

cultured nyc 🇺🇦

@culturednyc@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@blogdiva Today I columbused columbusing!

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@culturednyc i wish i could take credit but tis been an NDN (native american) neologism for some time.

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