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@Mrfunkedude

Well, I want the Fediverse to replace corporate-owned social media platform because I consider the latter to be not only enablers of fascistm, but dire threats to the long-term survival of human civilization.

@Mrfunkedude I get quite tired of all the 'we need to...' posts where people are saying how we need to come together to push Mastodon further to become the successor to Twitter or whatever. Totally agree...it is a success as far as I'm concerned.

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Corporate-owned media probably wish they could compete with social media. They can't because they're not social but monopolistic. Why do you even call them 'social'?

@Mrfunkedude this feels like a disingenuous take. Because that's where my friends are. If none of my friends, colleagues, peers want to be here then what's the point of any of this? And a lot of them don't, because of the weird, antisocial welcome they got the first time around.

I don't know how we recover from that and the we-don't-need-to-even-try attitude makes me sad to think this place will just remain a small cohort of weird Linux dudes talking at one another forever 😑

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Fediverse is only in competition with corporate social media in so much as it provides an alternate where it's the product, not you

@Mrfunkedude There's been so many times in the FOSS world that I've seen people approach some piece of software from a zero- (or negative-)sum point of view.

"I want [XYZ] to win!" (literal quote; software in question elided)

You wot? Why? What does "winning" entail, and why is that a good thing?

@Mrfunkedude this.

Meta, x, LinkedIn all big trees. Users are the many leaves that feed the central billionaire trunk. They're big, old, tired and susceptible to rot, taking large swaths of innocent leaves with.

Fedi is a new growth forest, lots of interconnected little trees and bushes and plants, all trying to live together

It'll take a lot longer to grow a whole forest, not every plant will make it, but know what? It's our forest, and it's much healthier than those greedy siloed trees are.

@Mrfunkedude interesting post... ended off fully weird there.

From what I am seeing, there is commercial advertisement here but, it's still essentially an opt-in type of setup.

You can follow BBC, for example, which will lead to commercial advertisements, and it's not completely forbidden to post commercial advertisements(is it?).

It is difficult to access a total feed though since they closed down the unfiltered live feed in [january?].

It feels more box-like now.

@Mrfunkedude Thank you for the wonderful analogy at the end. I've always admired flowers; even when they're cauliflowers.

@Mrfunkedude all right, potty metaphors, 🚽!

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power to the people is pretty meaningless when there are so few of us here

@Mrfunkedude i think fediverse dev would be happy to replace mainstream centralized app but it is not an ultimate goal. Few millions of users in plenty enough

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@Mrfunkedude I had an argument with someone about this a week back. This 100% !!

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Actually, if you shit and/or piss on a flower, it not only continue to grow but thrive like never before.

@Mrfunkedude the fediverse fills a similar niche in people's lives as X or Reddit. If we want it go grow into a place where the average person has a conversation without corporations algorithmically moderating them, then it has to at least make that case effectively to more people. It isn't in competition with corporate social media, but it isn't NOT in competition with them either.

@Mrfunkedude @maggiejk Agreed

@Mrfunkedude The Fediverse serves a small base and I fail to see it growing. It's stagnant.