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I have finished Chapter 3 of "The Analects of Confucius: An Internet Translation for Internet People." The page is also now more legible on mobile.

Featuring several episodes of "The Ji Clan Is At It Again," plus:

The Master remarked “Prime Minister Guan Zhong had a really small ‘jug,’ if you know what I mean!” Someone guessed: “… You mean he was frugal?” Confucius scoffed.

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The Analects of Confucius: an internet translation for internet people

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Analects of Confucius - Classical Chinese for Curious Nerds

A free online textbook of Classical Chinese for beginners, written in a modern style.

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@0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange · 5 days ago

I have finished Chapter 3 of "The Analects of Confucius: An Internet Translation for Internet People." The page is also now more legible on mobile.

Featuring several episodes of "The Ji Clan Is At It Again," plus:

The Master remarked “Prime Minister Guan Zhong had a really small ‘jug,’ if you know what I mean!” Someone guessed: “… You mean he was frugal?” Confucius scoffed.

https://xn--hmr.net/classicalchinese/analects/

#classicalchinese #philosophy #translation #localization

Analects of Confucius - Classical Chinese for Curious Nerds

A free online textbook of Classical Chinese for beginners, written in a modern style.

abadidea

@0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange · 7 days ago

working on chapter 3 of my Analects translation. On the whole, there is no particular narrative cohesion to the Analects, but sometimes we catch glimpses...

(The original text to notes ratio here is ugly but necessary, these particular entries are baffling without extended cultural context)

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Confucius said of the Ji clan: “They have EIGHT teams of dancers in their court! If we tolerate this, what line is left to cross?”

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… This is very “kids these days”: he means that’s too many dancers for someone who’s not a king, and is applying a slippery slope argument that it begins with too many dancers and ends with a long and bloody rebellion to overthrow the king. Confucius put enormous emphasis on outwardly following ritual rules (in this case, how many dancers you may keep on hand, based on your rank) to demonstrate your inner commitment to social order. — Confucius said of the Ji clan: “They have EIGHT teams of dancers in their court! If we tolerate this, what line is left to cross?” Note: … This is very “kids these days”: he means that’s too many dancers for someone who’s not a king, and is applying a slippery slope argument that it begins with too many dancers and ends with a long and bloody rebellion to overthrow the king. Confucius put enormous emphasis on outwardly following ritual rules (in this case, how many dancers you may keep on hand, based on your rank) to demonstrate your inner commitment to social order.

The Ji clan presumed to perform the Tai Mountain ritual. The Master pleaded with one of their advisors, Ran You: “Can’t you talk them out of this?” Ran You replied “I cannot.” The Master lamented: “For pity’s sake! If the gods of Tai Mountain tolerate this, their understanding of ritual is inferior to Lin Fang!”

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The idea here is that the Tai Mountain ritual is only for the lord acknowledged as “The Son of Heaven,” so the Ji clan have in fact slipped down that slope from eight entire dance squads. The pluck of openly complaining that gods these days don’t have as much self-respect as some random guy you know is very funny to me… (Lin Fang asked Confucius a question a few entries back.) — The Ji clan presumed to perform the Tai Mountain ritual. The Master pleaded with one of their advisors, Ran You: “Can’t you talk them out of this?” Ran You replied “I cannot.” The Master lamented: “For pity’s sake! If the gods of Tai Mountain tolerate this, their understanding of ritual is inferior to Lin Fang!” Note The idea here is that the Tai Mountain ritual is only for the lord acknowledged as “The Son of Heaven,” so the Ji clan have in fact slipped down that slope from eight entire dance squads. The pluck of openly complaining that gods these days don’t have as much self-respect as some random guy you know is very funny to me… (Lin Fang asked Confucius a question a few entries back.)

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