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@jeffowski@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
Adam Cochran (adamscochr... Spoke on background with two attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings. Both have always taken their cases to trial. After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client they’d advise: -Seek a plea deal -Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence -Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole) In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a living, think this case is unwinnable. They would try to defend his actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome. Their main sticking point were: -“l could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3” -“A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels” -“Denying medics throws self defense out the window”
Adam Cochran (adamscochr... Spoke on background with two attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings. Both have always taken their cases to trial. After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client they’d advise: -Seek a plea deal -Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence -Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole) In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a living, think this case is unwinnable. They would try to defend his actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome. Their main sticking point were: -“l could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3” -“A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels” -“Denying medics throws self defense out the window”
Adam Cochran (adamscochr... Spoke on background with two attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings. Both have always taken their cases to trial. After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client they’d advise: -Seek a plea deal -Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence -Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole) In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a living, think this case is unwinnable. They would try to defend his actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome. Their main sticking point were: -“l could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3” -“A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels” -“Denying medics throws self defense out the window”
Church of Jeff
Church of Jeff
@jeffowski@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
Adam Cochran (adamscochr... Spoke on background with two attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings. Both have always taken their cases to trial. After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client they’d advise: -Seek a plea deal -Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence -Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole) In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a living, think this case is unwinnable. They would try to defend his actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome. Their main sticking point were: -“l could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3” -“A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels” -“Denying medics throws self defense out the window”
Adam Cochran (adamscochr... Spoke on background with two attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings. Both have always taken their cases to trial. After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client they’d advise: -Seek a plea deal -Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence -Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole) In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a living, think this case is unwinnable. They would try to defend his actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome. Their main sticking point were: -“l could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3” -“A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels” -“Denying medics throws self defense out the window”
Adam Cochran (adamscochr... Spoke on background with two attorneys who have defended officer involved shootings. Both have always taken their cases to trial. After reviewing the events today, both said if it were their client they’d advise: -Seek a plea deal -Be willing to plead guilty to a lesser crime or a lower sentence -Accept anything that isn’t de jure LWOP (life with out parole) In other words, the guys who defend police officers shooting for a living, think this case is unwinnable. They would try to defend his actions, they’d just try and lower the impact of the outcome. Their main sticking point were: -“l could argue shot number one and hope for an acquittal or a hung jury - but I can’t get there on shots 2 and 3” -“A jury will not get passed the turning of the wheels” -“Denying medics throws self defense out the window”
Church of Jeff
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@jeffowski@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Obviously there'll need to be a full investigation—and there may be things we don’t know—but as a former criminal defense lawyer who worked homicide cases, my gut tells me this is Second-Degree Murder. As with all things ICE, every encounter is mishandled. Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Everything about how the first officer approached the vehicle was contra SOP—which is why the driver got spooked and tried to navigate from the situation. The second officer blocked her in—again contra SOP—then made no effort to step aside (though the victim wasn’t under arrest). Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h I think the other key thing to remember is that Noem, Lewandowski, and Miller are deliberately under-training and mis-training these officers, which underscores that they should be facing massive legal liability for the foreseeable results: i.e., homicides of innocent Americans.
Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Obviously there'll need to be a full investigation—and there may be things we don’t know—but as a former criminal defense lawyer who worked homicide cases, my gut tells me this is Second-Degree Murder. As with all things ICE, every encounter is mishandled. Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Everything about how the first officer approached the vehicle was contra SOP—which is why the driver got spooked and tried to navigate from the situation. The second officer blocked her in—again contra SOP—then made no effort to step aside (though the victim wasn’t under arrest). Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h I think the other key thing to remember is that Noem, Lewandowski, and Miller are deliberately under-training and mis-training these officers, which underscores that they should be facing massive legal liability for the foreseeable results: i.e., homicides of innocent Americans.
Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Obviously there'll need to be a full investigation—and there may be things we don’t know—but as a former criminal defense lawyer who worked homicide cases, my gut tells me this is Second-Degree Murder. As with all things ICE, every encounter is mishandled. Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Everything about how the first officer approached the vehicle was contra SOP—which is why the driver got spooked and tried to navigate from the situation. The second officer blocked her in—again contra SOP—then made no effort to step aside (though the victim wasn’t under arrest). Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h I think the other key thing to remember is that Noem, Lewandowski, and Miller are deliberately under-training and mis-training these officers, which underscores that they should be facing massive legal liability for the foreseeable results: i.e., homicides of innocent Americans.
Church of Jeff
Church of Jeff
@jeffowski@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Obviously there'll need to be a full investigation—and there may be things we don’t know—but as a former criminal defense lawyer who worked homicide cases, my gut tells me this is Second-Degree Murder. As with all things ICE, every encounter is mishandled. Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Everything about how the first officer approached the vehicle was contra SOP—which is why the driver got spooked and tried to navigate from the situation. The second officer blocked her in—again contra SOP—then made no effort to step aside (though the victim wasn’t under arrest). Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h I think the other key thing to remember is that Noem, Lewandowski, and Miller are deliberately under-training and mis-training these officers, which underscores that they should be facing massive legal liability for the foreseeable results: i.e., homicides of innocent Americans.
Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Obviously there'll need to be a full investigation—and there may be things we don’t know—but as a former criminal defense lawyer who worked homicide cases, my gut tells me this is Second-Degree Murder. As with all things ICE, every encounter is mishandled. Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Everything about how the first officer approached the vehicle was contra SOP—which is why the driver got spooked and tried to navigate from the situation. The second officer blocked her in—again contra SOP—then made no effort to step aside (though the victim wasn’t under arrest). Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h I think the other key thing to remember is that Noem, Lewandowski, and Miller are deliberately under-training and mis-training these officers, which underscores that they should be facing massive legal liability for the foreseeable results: i.e., homicides of innocent Americans.
Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Obviously there'll need to be a full investigation—and there may be things we don’t know—but as a former criminal defense lawyer who worked homicide cases, my gut tells me this is Second-Degree Murder. As with all things ICE, every encounter is mishandled. Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h Everything about how the first officer approached the vehicle was contra SOP—which is why the driver got spooked and tried to navigate from the situation. The second officer blocked her in—again contra SOP—then made no effort to step aside (though the victim wasn’t under arrest). Seth Abramson @SethAbramson - 12h I think the other key thing to remember is that Noem, Lewandowski, and Miller are deliberately under-training and mis-training these officers, which underscores that they should be facing massive legal liability for the foreseeable results: i.e., homicides of innocent Americans.
Church of Jeff
Church of Jeff
@jeffowski@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
Elle Ess @viamarsalal8.bsky.social + 3h @ Bluesky Elder I need people to wrap their minds around the fact that here in Minneapolis, ICE broke the window of a vehicle yesterday, pepper sprayed the occupants, and arrested them, and shot another observer in the face today, and OBSERVERS ARE STILL GOING OUT TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AT MASSIVE PERSONAL RISK @ AC @wellgoshacs.bsky.social - 4h @ Bluesky Elder I'm eating lunch, I'm having a panic attack, I'm charging my phone, and then I'm going back out to try and keep my neighborhood safe. Elle Ess @viamarsala18.bsky.social @ Bluesky Elder The people out at the site right now blowing whistles and yelling at ICE are doing so KNOWING THEY WILL BE PHYSICALLY HARMED because what's at stake is THAT IMPORTANT
Elle Ess @viamarsalal8.bsky.social + 3h @ Bluesky Elder I need people to wrap their minds around the fact that here in Minneapolis, ICE broke the window of a vehicle yesterday, pepper sprayed the occupants, and arrested them, and shot another observer in the face today, and OBSERVERS ARE STILL GOING OUT TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AT MASSIVE PERSONAL RISK @ AC @wellgoshacs.bsky.social - 4h @ Bluesky Elder I'm eating lunch, I'm having a panic attack, I'm charging my phone, and then I'm going back out to try and keep my neighborhood safe. Elle Ess @viamarsala18.bsky.social @ Bluesky Elder The people out at the site right now blowing whistles and yelling at ICE are doing so KNOWING THEY WILL BE PHYSICALLY HARMED because what's at stake is THAT IMPORTANT
Elle Ess @viamarsalal8.bsky.social + 3h @ Bluesky Elder I need people to wrap their minds around the fact that here in Minneapolis, ICE broke the window of a vehicle yesterday, pepper sprayed the occupants, and arrested them, and shot another observer in the face today, and OBSERVERS ARE STILL GOING OUT TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AT MASSIVE PERSONAL RISK @ AC @wellgoshacs.bsky.social - 4h @ Bluesky Elder I'm eating lunch, I'm having a panic attack, I'm charging my phone, and then I'm going back out to try and keep my neighborhood safe. Elle Ess @viamarsala18.bsky.social @ Bluesky Elder The people out at the site right now blowing whistles and yelling at ICE are doing so KNOWING THEY WILL BE PHYSICALLY HARMED because what's at stake is THAT IMPORTANT
Church of Jeff
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@jeffowski@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
Elle Ess @viamarsalal8.bsky.social + 3h @ Bluesky Elder I need people to wrap their minds around the fact that here in Minneapolis, ICE broke the window of a vehicle yesterday, pepper sprayed the occupants, and arrested them, and shot another observer in the face today, and OBSERVERS ARE STILL GOING OUT TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AT MASSIVE PERSONAL RISK @ AC @wellgoshacs.bsky.social - 4h @ Bluesky Elder I'm eating lunch, I'm having a panic attack, I'm charging my phone, and then I'm going back out to try and keep my neighborhood safe. Elle Ess @viamarsala18.bsky.social @ Bluesky Elder The people out at the site right now blowing whistles and yelling at ICE are doing so KNOWING THEY WILL BE PHYSICALLY HARMED because what's at stake is THAT IMPORTANT
Elle Ess @viamarsalal8.bsky.social + 3h @ Bluesky Elder I need people to wrap their minds around the fact that here in Minneapolis, ICE broke the window of a vehicle yesterday, pepper sprayed the occupants, and arrested them, and shot another observer in the face today, and OBSERVERS ARE STILL GOING OUT TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AT MASSIVE PERSONAL RISK @ AC @wellgoshacs.bsky.social - 4h @ Bluesky Elder I'm eating lunch, I'm having a panic attack, I'm charging my phone, and then I'm going back out to try and keep my neighborhood safe. Elle Ess @viamarsala18.bsky.social @ Bluesky Elder The people out at the site right now blowing whistles and yelling at ICE are doing so KNOWING THEY WILL BE PHYSICALLY HARMED because what's at stake is THAT IMPORTANT
Elle Ess @viamarsalal8.bsky.social + 3h @ Bluesky Elder I need people to wrap their minds around the fact that here in Minneapolis, ICE broke the window of a vehicle yesterday, pepper sprayed the occupants, and arrested them, and shot another observer in the face today, and OBSERVERS ARE STILL GOING OUT TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AT MASSIVE PERSONAL RISK @ AC @wellgoshacs.bsky.social - 4h @ Bluesky Elder I'm eating lunch, I'm having a panic attack, I'm charging my phone, and then I'm going back out to try and keep my neighborhood safe. Elle Ess @viamarsala18.bsky.social @ Bluesky Elder The people out at the site right now blowing whistles and yelling at ICE are doing so KNOWING THEY WILL BE PHYSICALLY HARMED because what's at stake is THAT IMPORTANT