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James Cridland
@james@bne.social  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@pauljrobinson @samsethi Not convinced that killing free hosting is required for AI slop management, or desirable. But i do think the industry needs to step up in 2026. Apple already have rules in their TOS that AI companies are ignoring. If Apple were to apply them. It would go a long way towards killing AI slop.

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Paul J Robinson (He/Him)
@pauljrobinson@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@james @samsethi@samsethi@podcastindex.social maybe needs to be directory-led? PI (or another) could refuse to index all shows from a particular host and punish those who are enabling this stuff. Player-apps would (I’m sure) be happy to choose a directory that was AI free as a distinguishing feature.

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James Cridland
@james@bne.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@pauljrobinson PI has built its reputation on not censoring any shows. But certainly having a "Stop the Slop" reporting mechanism, to set a flag on a PI listing, would be helpful.

Note, though, that Jeanine Wright, the CEO of Inception Point AI, is a former lawyer. That means any choice PI or apps make would need to be watertight.

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Paul J Robinson (He/Him)
@pauljrobinson@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@james true, although I was struck by how concerned @dave was in his contribution. I just don’t understand how either (a) a company like Spreaker can justify the cost of providing free hosting for that many shows or (b) how Inception Point AI can be generating enough revenue to pay them for it.

It isn’t sustainable long-term surely?

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James Cridland
@james@bne.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@pauljrobinson @dave (I’ve written in a GitHub about the way forward)

Spreaker does hosting for all those Inception Point AI shows. Most of them get very few downloads (and downloads are where the cost is). Every download has, say, three ads at $20 CPM = $60 eCPM for every download = $0.06 per download. Spreaker will keep, say, 5% of that - 0.3 c per download. That’s *way* more money than it costs to serve.

The more content Inception Point AI churns out, the more downloads. The more downloads, the more ads. The more ads, the more money. The more money, the more profit.

And some people here think Spreaker will spend time/money on implementing an AI tag…

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Paul J Robinson (He/Him)
@pauljrobinson@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@james @dave Absolutely fascinating breakdown - thank you.

So to me, that reinforces the idea that the industry needs to come together to ostracise Spreaker for enabling this business model. Cut them out somehow unless they play ball and tag these episodes appropriately.

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