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Phil (ascentale)
@ascentale@sfba.social  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

Another #BikeNite question from a relative:

Q6. As an inexperienced rider who wants to ride more, what should I carry with me for a longer ride (20+ miles) so that I don't get stranded? And when riding alone and female, can stay safe?

#BikeNiteQ #BikeTooter #Cycling #MastoBikes cc @bikenite

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ordinoides
@ordinoides@kolektiva.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@ascentale @bikenite
Everyone else has the tool and repair situation well covered-
For safety when riding alone I:
make sure my bike is in shape before leaving to avoid idiot accidents (the ABC check: Air, Brakes, Chain/Cables)
Have a plan- know where you're going- check street view and satellite photos to determine if unfamiliar roads are bikeable
Tell someone at home the general plan and how long I'll be gone (same as hiking alone)
Have a reliable method of navigation (phone is good enough in developed areas) so that if your original plan is blocked or sketchy, you can reroute
Bring lights- a bright taillight even in daytime

As a female rider, I do find that some drivers are especially rude to me- catcalls mostly. I don't have a solution for this problem unfortunately!
#bikeNite #BikeTooter

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Marcus Baynes-Rock
@hyenachow@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 minutes ago

@ordinoides @ascentale @bikenite Sorry about the idiot drivers - great to hear that it doesn't stop you riding

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Luke
@wlukewindsor@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@ascentale A6 a cycling waterbottle (in a bottle cage), waterproof, snack, inner tube, tyre lever and pump, multitool. Can’t comment much on the safety thing as a cis man but what @quixoticgeek said…

I rode 100 km today with the above setup only it was two bottles - one insulated with hot tea.

Didn’t take a waterproof as it wasn’t going to rain and my winter jacket is water-repellant enough for an unexpected shower.

I did take my house keys which dropped out of my unzipped pocket into the road close to home (fortunately the roads were quiet and they were easy to find and retrieve).

If I ride further I take more things (second inner tube, patch kit, spare brake and gear cables, battery pack and lights) and lots of food as I don’t like stopping.

#bikenite

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rowmyboat
@rowmyboat@glammr.us replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6: in agreement with flat repair/replace kit plus multitool, along with ample snacks and water and a basic first aid kit. All that will easily fit in a small handlebar bag, and you can leave it packed so you don’t forget things when you head out. As for being female, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I have no particular concerns other than also packing some extra tampons in that kit. #BikeNite

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Quixoticgeek
@quixoticgeek@social.v.st replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite

A6 where exactly are you cycling where being female and alone is a risk? I've done almost 50000km cycling around Europe, the vast majority of it outside cities. Where I'm usually alone. People aren't going out into the sticks looking for women on bikes to molest.
As a women that rides almost exclusively alone, and does big tours, I get this question a lot, and I just don't understand it. I'm much more worried about being hit by a car than anything else.

#BikeNite

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dr2chase
@dr2chase@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6 #BikeNite depends on your repair abilities. Most likely failure by far is a flat, assuming you know how to fix that, a tube (or two), tools to get a wheel off, (Pedro's) tire levers to get a tire off/on. And a (Lezyne) pump, maybe an inflator cartridge. Lezyne makes a portable "floor" pump, good if you lack arm strength, mine got stolen however.

If it were a long tour, I have carried (and have used) spare spokes and a cassette tool to let me get at those spokes.

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George B
@gbargoud@masto.nyc replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@dr2chase @ascentale @bikenite

Have you tried a fiberfix spoke? It's a fiberglass replacement spoke that can basically replace any spoke length in a pinch. Really useful to avoid having to carry 3 separate spare spokes for your front and rear wheel

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dr2chase
@dr2chase@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite also spare lights, I have been caught out later than planned a few times, and once helped a rollerblader who did the same (it was fully dark, so I rolled behind and lit the way).

From others, ditto the backup calories, was on a long ride with a bunch of boy scouts once and some of them started to complain about cold and got slow, fed them raisins for fuel.

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Matthew Newell
@MatthewNewell@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite

In decreasing of importance
1. Phone (and power bank if battery even close to possibly running down)
2. Card
3. folding and shiny money
4. Warm and dry jacket
5. Puncture repair kit. Allen keys for major bolts
6. Chain and lock

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Matthew Newell
@MatthewNewell@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite

I find it really helps to be organised and consistent - means planning is moments work.

Phone - jacket pocket.
Card - left jack pocket
Keys - right jacket pocket
Tubes and levers and hex keys in orange triangular pack
Warm coat which is waterproof in orange tube
chain and lock in blue tube
Drink (if it is hot weather then with electrolytes) .

All live on bike so always ready

Middle bit of bike with toolbox, drink, and two tool tubes in bottle cages
Middle bit of bike with toolbox, drink, and two tool tubes in bottle cages
Middle bit of bike with toolbox, drink, and two tool tubes in bottle cages
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Asphalt and Earth
@AsphaltandEarth@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite Q6 - I have a small toolkit that I carry around with me but in all honestly I can’t really think of a time I’ve had to use it on the road. For me the key things are a puncture kit / way to reinflate your tyre, a phone and some cash.

#bikenite

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Marty Cormack
@MartyCormack@urbanists.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@AsphaltandEarth @ascentale @bikenite
#BikeNite
As I do adventure rides and sometimes I am out of cell phone coverage areas, I also carry a satellite communicator in those cases.

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Siegfried.
@realSiegfried@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6. Here in Europe, even on longer tours, you always pass through towns with bike repair shops. That's why I hardly carry any tools with me. Except when several spokes broke on a tour. They don't take up much space. I now carry two spare spokes with a small tension wrench in my panniers.
I always carry a chain lock, a bottle of water, a power bank, an old smartphone I use as a navigation device and some expander straps to fix my bike in a train in case I need to.
#bikenite

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ViSzKe
@ViSzKe@mastodon.acc.sunet.se replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite Set of hex keys should be with you on any ride of any distance

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Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
@gcvsa@mstdn.plus replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite #BikeNite A6. Mobile phone, ID, credit & health cards, POM OC spray, Storm whistle, first aid & toiletries kit, USB powerbank + cable, water bottle, spare eyeglasses, proper bicycle locks.

Toolkit:
tube repair kit
tire levers
CO2 inflator and/or mini air pump
axle nut wrench
mini chain tool
extra quick link for chain
multitool with pliers
loose long handle Allen wrenches (only sizes that fit my bicycle: 3, 4, 5, 6 mm)
extra bicycle light batteries
mechanics' gloves

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Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐
@gcvsa@mstdn.plus replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite The only time I do not carry a toolkit and lock on my bicycle is during my fitness rides, because I ride a loop in my neighborhood that is never more than 2 Km from my home. A mechanical failure means, at worst (assuming it does not cause a crash) having to walk my bicycle home for a mile on flat ground.

The pepper spray and whistle are always on me, and if I feel the need for it, carrying a weapon is legal in my jurisdiction.

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NNN
@NNN@bettercities.top replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite

A6)
I bring extra water, an extra spare tube, and a USB battery pack to charge my phone.

I have a Garmin watch that will supposedly text my spouse if I crash, but it's probably overkill

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Frank Bennett
@fgbjr@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6: What others have said about tools, tires, and electrolytes to fend off evening leg cramps.

I use a phone app for navigation, which is great, but the phone has less battery life than a cycle computer, and touch-screens don't work when wet. For fair-weather rides, I have a quick-release phone mount by Minoura that I like, and keep a 10000mHa battery & cable in a front bag. When rain is in the cards, I use a waterproof phone bag with small storage by Rockbros.
#bikeNite

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AI6YR Ben
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite

#BikeNite A6. I'm not much of a long distance rider, but: patch kit, tube, tire levers, pump. But, I intentionally buy more expensive tires which don't tend to get flats so I don't get stranded. Phone so I can call to get bailed out. Uber just in case that's not an option... though i have yet to figure out if Uber would take a bike. 🤔

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nick
@nickzoic@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite #bikenite A6: tools, spares, etc for any fix you're willing and confident to do by the side of the road. No point bringing anything not in that category.

Even partial fixes can help a lot, eg: when I trashed my rear derailleur and had a walk back, it was a huge help that I had tools with me to remove it and the chain so I could roll the bike unimpeded and even coast down hills. Being able to remove brake pads and scuff them up on a concrete curb can make a big difference if they're not working well due to contamination.

Spare calories and water in case you've got a walk ahead of you. This is part of the reason why I never got into clippy shoes. Maybe SPDs are okay for this but I'd rather wear walking shoes.

As for personal safety I don't really know, probably the #1 thing is a phone and a credit card so if things look sketchy you can get a ride out without having to depend too much on the kindness of strangers.

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Sam Levine
@SRLevine@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite I'll agree with the basic tools and knowing how to change an inner tube (along with snacks & water).

And add: always have my lock even if I don't plan to lock up, you never know when it might be necessary (emergency bathroom break, running out of water and needing to go into a store for more, bike problems where you can catch a bus home and can't take he bike for some reason, etc).

The other is have the number of a local taxi company in your phone. You can tell them you need space to put a bike in the back and they can usually accommodate that no problem (either with a prius or a minivan, and it's not someone's personal car so they don't worry as much about things like bike grease). 20 miles out and uber or lyft might not get you a ride or might not be able to accommodate the bike, but a local taxi company usually will, even if you have to pay unfortunate amounts or wait a bit.

#BikeNite

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kimu
@kimu@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@SRLevine @ascentale @bikenite always having a lock is a GREAT point.

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nick
@nickzoic@aus.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@SRLevine @ascentale @bikenite yeah the other thing I always carry is a lock, it's not like there aren't plenty of people with portable angle grinders these days, but if you have to leave the bike and come back for it a lock says "this bike belongs to someone who's coming back for it" rather than "this bike is here because it's free to a good home."

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edd
@edd@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6. Main things to carry are basic tools for adjusting bolts, a spare tube or two, tire levers to use said tube, and some way to get air in the tubes. You can use a patch kit, but it might be more annoying than you want to deal with where you are.

Unfortunately I have no real advice for staying safe while being a woman. I've heard of some folks bringing pepper spray, but that won't help against drivers in cars.

#BikeNite

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kimu
@kimu@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6. I share my location with my spouse & check in with him periodically when I’m on long rides. Probably smart to carry a spare tube, tools to change it, and a way to fill it, but tbh I’m not going to change my own tire, it’s just not a thing I want to do. My backup plan is to get a ride to a bike shop or home, by calling my spouse, a friend, ride share, etc. I do always carry a bungee cord, some zip ties, and a first aide kit. And plenty of snacks and water. #BikeNite

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isol
@isol@mastodon.au replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite

1) Fuel for the human, if you're going longer distances! Sports drink, or mix your own water+electroyltes. Gels are easy to carry.

2) You can't ride if you have a flat tyre or tyres, so I go overkill. I thought 2 patches should be enough, then got 3 punctures 10km from home and had to walk the bike back.

Tubes, patches, pump, experience from having changed *those* tubes and tyres. Some tyres will come off and go on by hand, others need 4 tyre levers and rubber lubricant and a stream of curse words.
Presta to Schrader adapter if you have Presta valves, as the adapter lets you use petrol station air pumps (in case your pump fails)

3) Some sort of multitool.

4) Any tools involved in whatever the most recent maintenance was. If you've adjusted your seat, carry the right Allen key. If you've changed pedals, carry the right wrench for them. My theory is that the first ride just might uncover something you thought was done up properly.

5) Weather forecast. Can you complete your ride before any forecast bad weather?

6) Bicycle computer. It's gratifying to track your progress as you start riding longer and longer distances.

0) Wax your chain! 🤪

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LovesTha🥧
@LovesTha@floss.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@isol @ascentale @bikenite all allen keys, screw drivers, and spoke tool isn't big. It sucks to not be able to tweak mid ride when you need to (or a small crash needs adjustment to ride home)

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marywordymary
@marywordymary@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite I didn't have any answers but was very curious to hear them so thanks to all who chimed in.

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AE4WX
@AE4WX@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6. I echo the answers you've already got. I'd add simply to make sure you have the distance in you before you attempt it- do a short loop around home to a total of 20 miles before you attempt that distance. I train on a 3.3 mile loop in my neighborhood. #bikenite

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Marty Cormack
@MartyCormack@urbanists.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite
#bikenite A6:
The most likely issue to strand someone on a 20+mile ride is a flat tire, so carrying everything needed to repair and inflate a tire would be essential. A cellphone and the number of a reliable person who could rescue you would be good too.
As a privileged white cis het male, I am unqualified to suggest safety measures for those less privileged, but it does ticks me off that our society has less safety for others

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Matthew Newell
@MatthewNewell@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@MartyCormack @ascentale @bikenite

↑↑ What Marty said in last paragraph for me too.

such a terrible indictment of our society that it is a necessary question.

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Solarbird :flag_cascadia:
@moira@mastodon.murkworks.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite I carry: spare tube. Tube patch. Electric tyre pump. Tyre levers. Most mini toolkit, but it has all the hex keys I'll need. Needlenose pliers.

and most importantly walk around with an "I can fuck you up, het boy, so doin't even think about it" attitude with enough weightlifter bulk to pull it off.

#BikeNite

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Darth Osler
@autolycos@med-mastodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite divergent recommendations

Sap gloves, and experience doing 100 tire removal/tube patch/reinstalls in less than workshop conditions

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Sam Van Horne, Ph.D.
@DataAngler@vis.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@autolycos @ascentale @bikenite I need to go bike repair summer camp to learn this

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Megan Lynch (she/her)
@meganL@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6. Hard to have an iron-clad guarantee on things like that, but I think you should get Better World Club coverage or add bike coverage if you're sticking with AAA already.

There are tune-ups to do, and I'd add to bring water, but having the relative security of knowing you can get a ride if you need it helps. https://www.betterworldclub.net/ #BikeNite

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Semitones
@semitones@tiny.tilde.website replied  ·  activity timestamp 30 minutes ago

@meganL @ascentale @bikenite thanks for the recommendation but I have yo say this has got to be one of the worst websites I've been on. Half the buttons don't work and there's no way to get any information :/

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Megan Lynch (she/her)
@meganL@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 27 minutes ago

@semitones @ascentale @bikenite Loads of websites suck.

Better World Club

1661 SE 3rd Ave #F305,

Portland, OR 97214.

Hours: Monday - Friday 8:30 am-5:30 pm PST

​

Member Services

1-866-238-1137 Toll-Free:
1-503-546-1137 Portland #BikeNite

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Yvonne ‘looks undocumented’
@grammasaurus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

@ascentale @bikenite A6: one of my women riding friends worries about the “being prepared” aspect a lot. She tends to pack for a lot of contingencies. I don’t think either of us worries much about safety, except getting hit by a car/truck.

I’m trying to learn more about bike maintenance so that if something goes wrong I have a good idea what it is, if for no other reason than it’s good to be able to talk knowledgeably to a mechanic.

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David S
@Pionir@masto.bike replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@grammasaurus @ascentale @bikenite

Learning how to fix common problems on the roadside is great advice. You can do worse than watch the Hack/Bodge segments on the GCN shows as the often have good ideas for roadside hacks https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuTaETsuCOkJ0H_GAztWt0Q

For equipment:
1. Pump
2. Spare inner tube (test it periodically!)
3. Multitool for your bike (check which bolts are on it). I like the Topeak rachet sets - they've got a few options.

I also carry a chain Quick Link and mini QL tool from Aliexpress

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Yvonne ‘looks undocumented’
@grammasaurus@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@Pionir @ascentale @bikenite Thanks for the suggestions and the link!

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