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Jordan Maris πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ #NAFO
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@jmaris@eupolicy.social  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

I often hear Americans & rich brits justify buying oversized, polluting vehicles by claiming they need them because they live in the "countryside".

I call bullshit, Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to introduce, the Citroen C15⬇

#C15 #carBrain #CarDependency #SUV #NoSUV #Pickup_truck

A Citroen C15 van
A Citroen C15 van
A Citroen C15 van
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@jmaris

Now make an electric one, meeting this standard. Not self driving, not €/$/Β£ 100,000 , not spying on you.

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@Owlor@meow.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@jmaris Nine times out of ten, "countryside" is just a funny way USAmerican car owners pronounce "suburbs".

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@slothrop@chaos.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@jmaris Great thread! And so true.

I did a year of forestry work in the late 90s in Germany. We were given a Renault Rapid to drive - looks like that model was a direct competitor of the Citroen C15.

It was great fun, extremely practical, very solid, and quite cheap to repair. Great car.

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@415S30@mastodon.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@jmaris Yeah you can't cross a creek after a rainstorm with that. You can't carry very much or tow anything with that either. I think your concept of country is different.

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@PeryleneBleu@eldritch.cafe replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@jmaris @415S30 you can carry 3 cows in it though. If you read the thread. It carries more than a majority of SUVs. And it does great in mud. You don't do that much off-roading for an average person, even living in the countryside...and it does better in slippery terrains like snow and mud than a mini truck/SUV anyway, because among others : center of gravity. AND you can attach a trailer if you need even more space.

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Jordan Maris πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ #NAFO
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@jmaris@eupolicy.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

I grew up in highly rural France: 30 mins to nearest supermarket, many unpaved roads, really tough winters. And yet I rarely ever saw SUVs or Pick-Ups.

Because the French have understood that the C15 represents the peak of what the automobile can be. ⬇

A red Citroen C15
A red Citroen C15
A red Citroen C15
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@jmaris@eupolicy.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

So in this thread, I will compare the C15 to its competition on the basis of objective criteria, and prove that men who buy SUVs and Pick-Ups are, with very few exceptions, compensating for something ;)

Without further ado, the competition:⬇

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@jmaris@eupolicy.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

The Ford Ranger (2020). One of the most popular pickups in the US.

A key selling point is that the cabin is so high you can run over toddlers without even noticing.⬇

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A ford ranger
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@jmaris@eupolicy.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

The Landrover Discovery, a British staple famous for being the favourite car of renowned pedophile prince andrew, and emitting as much CO2 as a cruise ship.⬇

A landrover discovery
A landrover discovery
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@jmaris@eupolicy.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

I will compare the vehicles on the following criterea:
- PRICE TO BUY
- PRICE TO RUN
- CAPACITY
- OFF-ROADING
- SPEED and
- EMISSIONS

with additional bonus criteria at the end.

Lets see how the C15 holds up.⬇

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@jmaris@eupolicy.social replied  Β·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

First on PRICE TO BUY:

At the time of release in 1984, a C15 would set you back about €13 000 (adjusted for inflation, euro)

The Cheapest 2018 Ford Ranger will cost you €25k.

A Land Rover Discovery will set you back about €50k

Today, you can get a C15 for €2k

C15 wins.⬇

A C15 used for deliveries with a refrigeration unit
A C15 used for deliveries with a refrigeration unit
A C15 used for deliveries with a refrigeration unit
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