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@FinchHaven@sfba.social · 2 days ago

@eyeinthesky

It takes some reading, and some prior knowledge, but this is #ATProto specific only

There is a faint hat-tip:

"Thank you for reading! You can follow me on the #Atmosphere or the #Fediverse."

but that can hardly be called even that

The Fediverse?

#Mastodon?

Barely a hat-tip

So how exactly is this an "The Everything Account" when it's specifically looking at one protocol only?

And when in fact Bluesky is its own monolithic ecosystem that has to be bridged to talk to anything else?

"You arrive, create your Everything Account, and take it everywhere you go."

An Everything Account

Which at the moment doesn't exist

Got it

FinchHaven sfba

@FinchHaven@sfba.social replied · 2 days ago

@eyeinthesky

It takes some reading, and some prior knowledge, but this is #ATProto specific only

There is a faint hat-tip:

"Thank you for reading! You can follow me on the #Atmosphere or the #Fediverse."

but that can hardly be called even that

The Fediverse?

#Mastodon?

Barely a hat-tip

So how exactly is this an "The Everything Account" when it's specifically looking at one protocol only?

And when in fact Bluesky is its own monolithic ecosystem that has to be bridged to talk to anything else?

"You arrive, create your Everything Account, and take it everywhere you go."

An Everything Account

Which at the moment doesn't exist

Got it

Eye

@eyeinthesky@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@FinchHaven The design is not specific to #atproto (although the article uses that implementation as an example). The W3C Solid project ( @Solid ) uses a very similar approach with Linked Data. I've seen recent mentions of exploring this type of architecture for the Fediverse too. Do you know of any reason it couldn't be done with #ActivityPub? This is where the imagination is required.

FinchHaven sfba

@FinchHaven@sfba.social replied · yesterday

@eyeinthesky

It''s not even the specific protocol that I question

It's that these dreamy-eyed, hand-wavy "Everyone should control their own data!!" always ignore the real-world reality of that dreamy ideal:

On what server in what rack in which data center politically controlled by what nation-state does any of this happen?

What nation controls the necessary data connections and interties?

What data does that nation monitor?

Your "Every Account" has to exist on some hardware, served by some corporate ISP, somewhere

To pretend that reality is not foundational makes the whole "My Every Account" just fairy tale

Fun to talk about at a pub, maybe, but ultimately of little significance in the real world

cc @Solid

Eye

@eyeinthesky@mastodon.social replied · yesterday

@FinchHaven It's true that life's not perfect, but that's no reason, in my opinion, to give up on "everything".

FinchHaven sfba

@FinchHaven@sfba.social replied · yesterday

@eyeinthesky

Not living in fairy land is not "giving up on everything"

Bye...

Eye

@eyeinthesky@mastodon.social replied · yesterday

@FinchHaven What are you proposing as a solution (or solutions)?

Note that I quoted only "everything" (as a word play on "The Everything Account").

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