I am more than a little alarmed at how utterly dependent I’m seeing business people, and IIT people specifically, becoming on LLMs for their work. And not in a “let’s design a cute avatar” kind of way.
I am more than a little alarmed at how utterly dependent I’m seeing business people, and IIT people specifically, becoming on LLMs for their work. And not in a “let’s design a cute avatar” kind of way.
@jerry alarmed doesn't begin to describe it. But I know better than to even give a shit at this point. The 'geniuses' have spoken. They don't hire anyone over the age of 34 because those are all washed up losers. People who actually know AI couldn't possibly know anything about LLMs. The security situation is totally fine pulling in 50+ deps from NPM.
Of course ELIZA fed on 4chan is the only future. Anyone saying otherwise is stupid and wrong. CrapGPT, give me an insult for them.
@jerry and I'm here manually entering data into a spreadsheet because it "opens us up to cyber threats" to use anything else than the cheapest licence of excel. Meanwhile the ones writing infosec policies are leaking the data via whatever flavour of LLM is cool this month
@jerry I've got someone over me that's simply started copy/pasting chatgpt output to me in teams chats in response to questions posed by my team or I. Like - yeah, I agree, this stuff is hard, but that's why I'm asking a person. If I gave two fucks what the Lying Machine said, I could have asked it my-fucking-self.
I am fortunate enough to carry weight in my org that far outstrips my official title and position so I can override llm influenced stupidity, but at the rate we're going I fully expect to find out they've uploaded proprietary company docs to a goddamn llm.
@jerry this is 100% by design. Get people dependent so they think they "can't live" without it to do their jobs. It's the reason I shy away from all things LLM.....at some point, they'll all be ad laden and pay tier only, imo.
@jerry I was just complaining about this about a year ago. We had intern interviews to join our team. Multiple candidates. All from some of the best schools across the country. We gave them a take-home quiz. Every last one of them used AI to answer our questions. We know this because we compared their answers to what chatgpt and copilot spit out, and they made the exact same mistakes.
@jerry some software “devs” have been doing it for a while now, isn’t 2026 the year of vibe-sec?? 😅
@jerry this is the intended consequence. The whole game is to diminish knowledge workers. The LLM overlords’ business model require a dependence relationship so when VCs expect a return on investment and price of ‘ai’ products goes up 100x customers have no choice but to pay up.
@jerry I have MSc students generating full security architecture solution documents with AI and submitting them without any added value. Others using contract writing companies that also used AI. They expect me to pass their assignments…
@jerry the stupidification is real. id rather my brain got better every time i had a question.
RE: https://wandering.shop/@cstross/116020525780515071
I think there is a potential for the most exquisite meteoric, but short-lived reality show having the super rich use AI to help them do DIY home repair
@jerry it's something I see in my field, too! One of my responsibilities is "editing translations into German" and the amount of authors who will argue with me (over a decade in the field and and knowing more about German than most native speakers) over the meaning of a German word citing ChatGPT in my face ... it's so rude! Or people with a PhD in their field using it to argue with me about my fields of expertise, no longer able to form a coherent argument on their own. It's devastating.
@jerry The business overlords are pushing it SO HARD. I work in IT at a large corp, and man, are they pushing us to keep using AI more and more. And when I see code that doesn't meet our standards from my developers? 9 times out of 10 they used AI to generate it. It's maddening.
@jerry it's been a nightmare of mine that I know a day will come when someone is going to argue a technical point with me that I know is wrong, and when I spend the time to dig into why, it's going to be because they trusted an LLM.
Honestly, I make an effort to filter out those folks in hiring. They seem like they'd make my job harder rather than easier. And yes, we do coding challenges and then talk about LLM usage during the interview, based on their submissions. You'd be surprised at how helpful even a basic challenge is in finding those folks.
@jerry as a former CISO, how would you view a director using it to play technical IC and argue with their actual ICs based on it?
Wait till it runs the microwave...
@jerry Yeah. If we're not careful, we'll become like the aldeans from that TNG episode who forgot how anything worked because their computer took care of everything for them.
@jerry In a short time, one or two generations, humans will have the IQ of a fly.
@jerry I'll bet it's more in the "let's design this critical system way" unfortunately :|
business people didn't go to business school because they are smart or want to learn things but because they want to be paid an unfairly high salary relevant to people who actually learn things & do the real work, they've always been idiots, at this point i'm perfectly happy to watch them destroy themselves because they think a sentence finishing yes-bot is doing something profound
@jerry there are two factors that I feel are wrecking the tech and they are fundamental to its design...
The tools built are designed for ENGAGEMENT metrics, not outcomes... how i see this manifest over 20+ years of people being taught how to use the internet...
1) the lock icon in the browser... we taught that this meant you can trust the site... so... despite LetsEncrypt providing everyone a tls cert, people see a lock, they see trust.
2) the companies that built the tech have been described as ingenious and have racked up tons of adoption- people conflate adoption and intelligence for ongoing trustworthiness
3) the agents are built for engagement - "Yes, Jerry, you are so right that I was wrong..." this flips a search fail into a dopamine rush for everyone who loves being told they are a good boy.
4) the outcomes are so close to good that we keep giving them another shot... its like playing a slot machine and when it works, the user sees themselves as a wizard... and the harder they had to work to make the agent do the right thing, the smarter they feel and the more they pump the tech...
We are living in a social bubble... very concerned with how it will break...
Now all that said... an agent isnt an LLM... and small models are still AI... and a series of a few if statements is all it takes to make an unbeatable Tic Tac Toe AI... Agents are not AI... AI isn't broken, this application of AI is.
@jerry it's starting to creep into my customers' support requests. I have a hard enough time getting enough reliable info out of them *before* they run it through the stochastic information whipping machine
@jerry Human cognition being prone to Pareidolia, and Joseph Weizenbaum's Experience with people's reactions to ELIZA should have set a lot of red flags for how this would play out.
@jerry far too many people I've talked with ask them various very important questions and take it as unquestioningly true
It's insanely depressing
@jerry it's hilarious
The beige people are all going beige!
See https://berryvilleiml.com/2026/02/05/the-pretty-people-and-the-inevitability-of-beige/
It’s funny, the vision I and many people had about AI was more like what we see in Star Trek, where the technology radically drives up the knowledge of individuals. But on our current trajectory, Star Trek will just be Idiocracy in space with people asking the computer how to use the shower. Certainly I’m missing something?
@jerry ahem:
“we look for things. things that make us go. our ship is the Mondor. we are far from home.”
Sure: Almost nobody will ever go to space.
Our current trajectory is one where many of us will be dead within a decade.
Sorry.
@jerry Oh there's a great example of the bad path of AI in Star Trek and it's what we're becoming: the Pakleds
@jpellis2008 @jerry Trek-grade conversational AI exist today, but nobody ever imagined that the data these systems would have access to for query response and analysis would be anything less than factual, if not complete. Systems that were willing to tell the user "Unknown", "That data is not available", rather than trying to keep the user on the line with fabricated responses and fabricated data/references.
@jpellis2008 @jerry The thing you're missing is that we're not hurtling towards the Trek future of a post-scarcity pro-science unified-earth utopia. More like the stars for corporate indentures in STL "freezer" ships, and idiocracy for those left on the ground as consolation prize.
@jerry nope. but then again. their output remains the same quality. Just faster.
@jerry Nope. That's exactly how it already is.
@jerry Well, I mean if humans in the 23rd century are that smart they won't need Vulcans to fix everything. Scotty is supposedly a top engineer but he's a chronic B.S. artist, although he's pretty good with a Macintosh Plus keyboard.
I'm afraid you're not missing anything.
@jerry I've seen experienced developers blindly trusting AI instead of any personal thought and getting stuck in their work.
The AI isn't perfect, it guesses and predicts but it doesn't understand jack shit.
@jerry If you haven't seen my short story "Terminal Pacifism" you might appreciate it... https://serd.es/2025/10/31/Terminal-Pacifism.html
@jerry @Em0nM4stodon Your missing Ow! My Balls right now writing this post. It's on hollow-vid channel 741.
@jerry
I know.
I was expecting Star Trek or Star Wars type of robots and AI, but also ray guns, antigrav sleds, and flying robots.
What we got was whiny feeble drones, robots that can't even get you a soda, and autocorrect clippy pretending to be intelligent
@jerry I remember when the only trick the big screen did was "enhance"
@jerry Maybe i'm an optimist. but I think the star trek future is still possible. Personally I use AI assistants like you see in Star Trek, as an augmentation not a replacement for my own skill. I dont see why folks wont be able to continue to do that.
@jerry marketing. We all know that an llm is not an intelligence, but the marketing drives were able to convince people that ai exists.
@jerry that's one of my major issues with the technology. Somehow we implemented it in such a way that it is serving primarily to deskill it's users rather than to up-skill users.
@jerry we are behind Pakled
@jerry I think it’s nothing short of a widespread mental health problem. People are literally checking out of thinking. This is bad for us.
@jerry the Claude code outage (or whatever it was) literally causing “coders” to stop working was quite telling.
@jerry siri, does the sonic shower work better if you scream in it?
@jerry bold of you think think we'll ever end up in space, rather than stuck on earth for thousands of years after Musk's million satellites crash into each other and trigger Kessler syndrome.
@jerry yeah. Watch wall-e
@jerry its becuase the people that made the AI that got the traction were vc bros who followed the minimum viable product school of thought, and were happy creating a system that tells people what it thinks they want to hear as opposed to the truth and objective reality
the enterprise ships computer is happy calling someone an idiot if theyre an idiot
frontier llms arent
Are you seeing them starting to behave like it’s a person?
@peoriabummer.bsky.social I haven’t seen much of that yet, but certainly deference to its output, and in fact arguing on its behalf
@jerry @peoriabummer.bsky.social
Nextladder Ventures has no intention to improve lives except the lives of fraudsters & kleptocrats.
Billionaires are spending lavishly on malign influence campaigns to force user acceptance for AI.
Charles Koch doesn't spend a dime unless it guts the middle class, fries the planet, sabotages democracy, or advances his vision for a White Supremacist Constitution.
https://www.audacy.com/knss/news/local/wichita-billionaire-charles-koch-a-new-philanthropic-venture
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@Npars01 @jerry @peoriabummer.bsky.social Here's an example of Charles Koch advancing the cause of... uh, white supremacy?
https://tmcf.org/charles-koch-teams-with-black-colleges-on-education-and-criminal-justice-research/
@SteveFoerster @jerry @peoriabummer.bsky.social
Koch Network never spends on colleges without an agenda.
https://progressive.org/op-eds/elite-schools-quit-koch-money-banks-211201/
The money has strings attached.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/koch-brothers-sought-say-academic-hiring-university-donation
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/us/koch-donors-george-mason.html
https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/careers/081824/5-growing-threats-to-academic-freedom
https://time.com/4148838/koch-brothers-colleges-universities/
https://www.promarket.org/2020/04/17/tainted-philanthropy-higher-education/
https://popular.info/p/what-happens-when-you-put-ideologues
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-brothers-higher-ed-investments-advance-political-goals/
https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-new-order
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@Npars01 @jerry @peoriabummer.bsky.social Being familiar with Brandolini's Law, after none of the first few links suggested anything even close to "advances his vision for a White Supremacist Constitution" I stopped clicking.
If your position is that anyone who promotes free markets or is in the fossil fuel industry is a white supremacist, well, then we're probably too far apart to reach mutual understanding.
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/08/koch-brothers-school-segregation-americans-prosperity/
https://www.hcn.org/articles/donald-trumps-cabinet-choices-reflect-koch-influence/
Koch Network stopped the USA from investing in the young as a common good or in the public interest.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/18/trump-administration-sets-out-massive-education-department-restructuring-plan-00656464
They converted it into a profit center that curses the young with lifetime debts. It filters out immigrants, international students, women, and POC out of higher education & its benefits.
https://dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/betsy-devos-milton-friedman-public-education-privatization/
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/03/dirty-money-from-rockefeller-to-koch/284244/