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@11011110@mathstodon.xyz  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

I recently posted about archive.today (also archive.is, archive.ph, archive.fo, archive.li, archive.md, and archive.vn) using its archive links to launch a ddos attack against a blogger they accused of doxing them: https://mathstodon.xyz/@11011110/116028203974257264

That attack triggered #Wikipedia (at least, the English part) to discuss banning archive.today links, and the ensuing discussion turned up evidence that (as part of the same dispute with the same blogger) archive.today had also tampered with its archived content to falsify certain names in old archived links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Archive.is_RFC_5#Evidence_of_altering_snapshots

This led to a quick close of the discussion and a consensus to remove all archive.today links from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Archive.today_guidance
For the same reasons I have removed all archive.today links from my blog, where I had been occasionally using them as a convenient way to access paywalled content. I suggest that others remove their links as well, lest you unwittingly become part of additional ddos attacks and falsification.

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@mxchara@seattle.pink  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@11011110 oh dear. that's inconvenient...are there any good alternatives

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@11011110@mathstodon.xyz  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@mxchara For getting around paywalls? I don't know. For archiving openly accessible content, archive.org is good. I have also seen recommendations for ghostarchive.org and megalodon.jp but haven't used either myself.

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@mkj@social.mkj.earth  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@11011110 The real killer for me with this whole archive.today/etc mess is the mention that the site has been found to have tampered with archive copies.

Even completely disregarding everything else in this whole saga, *that makes it worse than useless for its stated purpose*.

An archive is never going to be *complete*.

But if one can't trust that an archive is an accurate representation of what something was like at the time, then everything *that is there* is *also* called into question.

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