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Natasha 🇪🇺
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@Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

How far back in time can you understand English?

It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

"... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

#english #language

How far back in time can you understand English?

An experiment in language change
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@JoBlakely@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Natasha_Jay as old as 1300.
I did read a lot of Medieval & Arthurian literature as a kid.

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Mason Loring Bliss
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@mason@partychickens.net  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Natasha_Jay Fun, but I have a some comments and criticisms.

1900: I wish the author had leaned less obviously on Clement Clarke Moore and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. They spoke (or wrote) a stylized English consciously, and our traveller would not.

1700: The letter "ſ", the "long s", is typographical, not linguistic. Readers at the time would read "congress" as readily as "congreſs".

1600: Again, this is mostly typographical variation. Spoken, one would understand it easily. The weird "thouing" want seen until some fifty years later.

1500: Spoken, this would present no trouble to a modern listener.

1400: Typographical again, wiþ only minor variations in þe ſpelling used. Nat harde to reade, alþouȝ again the letter ſubstitution can be rouȝ.

1300: I don't see "ſchaltou" that far back, bit I didn't dig hard. I imagine spoken, one would realize it's two words mashed together. A Germanic "en" seems to show up randomly. "Rewþe" made me smile.

1200 and earlier: I feel like the vocabulary is starting to change here to the point where my unfamiliarity with the typographical anachronisms becomes an impediment. Hearing it spoken would help, and I'm interested enough to want to substitute modern characters for the archaic to see if that gets me further.

Thanks for posting this.

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Mason Loring Bliss
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@mason@partychickens.net  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Natasha_Jay Oh, and more the fool me. I stopped reading at the end of the travelogue text, and a superset of my comments appears afterwards.

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@cyberspice@oldbytes.space  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@Natasha_Jay @TCMuffin I made it all the way back to 1000 but then I’m interested in our lost letters like æ and þ (I have the icelandic keyboard set up so I can type the letters they still use) and I have some German.

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@TCMuffin@toot.wales  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@cyberspice @Natasha_Jay

That's so very impressive 👏👏👏

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@beatricejess@masto.bike  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@Natasha_Jay 1600 !

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@beatricejess@masto.bike  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@Natasha_Jay ah non 1500!

After, it's very difficult to understand for mi

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@beatricejess@masto.bike  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

Well I 'm lost until modern English blobcatsurprised

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Alex Schroeder
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@alex@social.alexschroeder.ch  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@beatricejess @Natasha_Jay I have to use yt-dlp to have a listen because YouTube in its greatness decided to automatically synchronize it so the narration is in German, for me. 🤨

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