@bootlessbuck @scott "How dare you insinuate I copy things?! I simply lie very effectively!"
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Is this post destined to become the Fediverse version of a dril tweet?
@scott
My hot take here is information is a public good and so we should start thinking of better ways than copyright to incentivize writers, artists, etc.
@ryanjyoder @scott As an artist, I think this is great, I think all work should be a public good and this solution found for everyone.
@JoBlakely @scott
This wouldn't work for everything since not everything is a public good. This wouldn't even work for all art. Like a sculpture or painting clearly aren't public good since they are physical goods.
@ryanjyoder @scott The arts are absolutely are a public good for so many reasons, and especially if they are in public galleries, or out in public. Art, music, culture is a public good. It’s good for people, and should be more accessible.
@JoBlakely @scott
I'm just talking in terms of the economics definition of a public good. Non-rival and non-exclusionary. (I'm all for public art)
@ryanjyoder @scott
Economics?
I still can show it’s a public good.
This is from an arts fund granting organization study done in Ontario.
@scott
What's an ethical AI user? A user that doesn't use GenAI?
@marc_eu @scott there is Fairly Trained, a non-profit org that aims to certify genAI models of any kind, if the content they were trained on is properly licensed: https://www.fairlytrained.org/certified-models
So far though, I mostly see music genAI models, none of them are general-purpose LLMs AFAIK.
So ethical use of genAI is possible, you just won't get a model as good as one using stolen or copyrighted work that was slurped up without a care in the world.
@alextecplayz @scott
It's not only about stolen IP. It's also the gigantic resource costs.
@scott I just tried this on ChatGPT for a bit of a laugh. It didn’t like it one bit.
@bootlessbuck @scott "How dare you insinuate I copy things?! I simply lie very effectively!"
@Mimesatwork @bootlessbuck @scott
There is no 'I' and there is no 'lie'. #LLMs are averaging machines. They produce word salad. They are fed everything, fact or fiction, and do not and cannot distinguish between the two. Giving facts was never their purpose.
Taking artist and writers work. Collecting data. All of it. Is what they were programmed for.
There is no ethical use of LLMs.
Regardless of the above, the energy and water usage is argument enough that there is no ethical justification.
@bootlessbuck @scott gaslight, gatekeep, generate
(and label fundamental design of the model as "mistakes", that's important too)