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Mike Sax
Mike Sax
@mikesax@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

Today I learned that nearly every modern car has four tire pressure sensors that broadcast a unique ID in clear text, so a basic Raspberry Pi scanner can track when your car is nearby.

https://networks.imdea.org/your-cars-tire-sensors-could-be-used-to-track-you/

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Your car’s tire sensors could be used to track you - IMDEA Networks

Researchers at IMDEA Networks Institute, together with European partners, have found that tire pressure sensors in modern cars can unintentionally expose drivers to tracking. Over a ten-week study, they collected signals from more than 20,000 vehicles, revealing a hidden privacy risk and highlighting the need for stronger security measures in future vehicle sensor systems. Most...
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Tilda Moose, citizen
Tilda Moose, citizen
@MattMoose@mastodon.world  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@mikesax

:) Remind me to stick with increasingly vintage vehicles.

It's all vanished up its own arse.

I'd rather pay a restorer than a manufacturer these days. :)

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Travis F W
Travis F W
@travisfw@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@MattMoose @mikesax I would buy from a used dealership that clipped all the rfid tags and other (eg cell) antennae.

Or better, if you wanted to get into the auto industry, disrupt all the things by selling modular cars certified maintainable by …

Waitaminute 🤔 now that I think of it, @iFixit, you want to get into the auto industry? Make me an electric car plz?

Set the bar for fewest microchips.

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RevK :verified_r:
RevK :verified_r:
@revk@toot.me.uk  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@mikesax surely this is not news, though? Did people not know this?

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Harald Hannelius :verified:
Harald Hannelius :verified:
@harald@mementomori.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@mikesax not all cars use 433 MHz sensors. Our Volkswagen uses the wheel speed sensors to calculate minute speed differences. But is on all the time :)

I uses rtl_433 to capture temperature sensor data at home. My home assistant got flooded with new sensors, thousands of them, because it wasn't possible to filter stuff before they were discovered by home assistant as new sensors. All of these were tire pressure sensors of cars driving by.

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Eric Schultz
Eric Schultz
@wwahammy@social.treehouse.systems  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@mikesax wow. On one hand, I get why they'd need unique IDs and I could see it being unencrypted just for cost.

But up to 50 meters away? That's just absurd to me.

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Reijo Pitkänen
Reijo Pitkänen
@reijomancer@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@wwahammy @mikesax
* Using an RTLSDR that's tuned to one of two useful frequencies, 315 or 433Mhz.

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Reijo Pitkänen
Reijo Pitkänen
@reijomancer@defcon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

Holy shit, I knew this felt familiar.

https://defcon.social/@reijomancer/110675809372326737

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Robert H
Robert H
@Stinson_108@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@reijomancer

The #VW ID.4 does not have TPMS sensors. It calculates tire pressure by measuring tire rotation. It is connected to the cellular data network independent of your phone.

https://media.vw.com/releases/1590

VW USA

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NKT
NKT
@Dss@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@Stinson_108 @reijomancer That's... Even worse.

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