Post by @ozoned@btfree.social

So, I've been seeing news about all of the age verification laws, and I see a LOT of scared people.

Here's the way I see it, and I'd like to honestly get people's opinion, I think they're dumb, HOWEVER, I think the laws give ud a HUGE opportunity. YOU can run your own platform and you can verify your own age. Same with your family, same with your community. This gives us power.

Are people just going to hand over their IDs to Facebook? Probably, but it won't be me. And there will be massive fraud and issues and this will force legal degradation of centralized platforms.

Thoughts?

Michael Mathy

@michaelmathy@mastodon.online · 4 months ago

@ozoned
The age verification should be implemented in your phone. And if someone want to know your age, just call an api on your phone that will say "yes lower than 18” or something like that
In a tech podcast I am listening, they were discussing that apple might implement something like that linked to the parental control.
In that case you do not have to have your id to anybody but just to your phone.

Boiling Steam

@boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud · 4 months ago

@ozoned

> YOU can run your own platform and you can verify your own age

until you can't.

ozoned

@ozoned · 4 months ago

@boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud yes, but that's with everything. Can you expand?

Boiling Steam

@boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud · 4 months ago

@ozoned its very easy to pass changes once the first step is taken. You start with v1, people dont complain because there are still some workarounds and give it a few years and you won't notice they tight things up progressively and by that time it will be too late.

ozoned

@ozoned · 4 months ago

@boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud potentially. I'm an idealist and I'm very biased in favor of the Fediverse, but I have a difficult time believing they'd want to enforce this against my running my own for my own family, let alone them actually being able to enforce this. It absolutely could impact big open platforms like mastodon.social or even my own tubefree.org. but this is a reaction to big tech getting us into this position and finding ways to reduce their power.

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PalePimp

@PalePimp@poa.st · 4 months ago

@boilingsteam @ozoned The classic slippery slope switcheroo, aka the Patriot act, because you want to protect the children and our liberties isn't goy?

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ozoned

@ozoned · 4 months ago

@PalePimp@poa.st @boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud definitely is a slippery slope. But if I run my own and you run your own, plus with the end to end encryption for DMs in the works, they'd need more than just these laws to get access to either of our servers. And anything public In post, well it's public.

PalePimp

@PalePimp@poa.st · 4 months ago

@ozoned @boilingsteam This is the trap of the slippery slope, it is unnecessary, it does not protect anybody, it just increases government overreach, you can run your own private stuff until they deem that illegal, we'll be there fast if this is not stopped, the Epstein class is getting more and anxious by the minute and they want the total control over the information they had before the internet back.

ozoned

@ozoned · 4 months ago

@PalePimp@poa.st @boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud I could definitely see a path there. That scares the hell out of me and I hope you're wrong. But definitely possible. Thank you for sharing.

Boiling Steam

@boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud · 4 months ago

@ozoned

> YOU can run your own platform and you can verify your own age

until you can't.