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@_elena

the question is who puts them into the same category apart from their marketing bots?

@_elena I had heard about Attie but I didn't know what it does. It sounds a lot like Bonsai, the project from Princeton:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.10776

@_elena I had heard about Attie but I didn't know what it does. It sounds a lot like Bonsai, the project from Princeton:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.10776

@_elena while I truly do feel for the author, who seems to have had both his livelihood and his ideals shaken... what did he expect? what reasonable person could think things were going to turn out any differently?

@_elena

yes but the developers trying to build VC futures on AT don't understand the beauty of decentralization.

whatever you come up with, you're not going to be crazy rich. your service or app will be one of many implementations that do very similar things and where people can switch easily. hopefully many people will pay you a reasonable amount to keep it great but it's going to a lifestyle business, not a sellout and retire or start again type thing.

@_elena

I agree with the argument but it's deeper. the developers trying to build VC futures on AT don't understand the beauty of decentralization.

whatever you come up with, you're not going to be crazy rich. your service or app will be one of many implementations that do very similar things and where people can switch easily. hopefully many people will pay you a reasonable amount to keep it great but it's going to be a lifestyle business, not a sellout and retire or start again type thing.

@_elena Some grey beard tech wisdom here. Back in the day the big tech players would set up a sales channel, invite you to be a partner, incentivize you and then after you built your channel they'd promptly screw you over and steal the customers. You'd know when you received an email about "exciting changes for channel partners". This is the same behavior. Mikes first law of tech business, big tech always screws the channel. Or should we say in 2026 big social always screws the community.

@_elena interestingly this was the exact play of twitter - you can see the DNA.

@_elena This is why I'll _almost_ never understand the excitement around the #ATmosphere . It's designed with FOSS aesthetics and private interest profiteering in mind.

Not to say that #ActivityPub doesn't have some pretty big problems, it does. Ones that #Bluesky does a much better job with. But with ActivityPub? It's not designed or built around a private platform first. It was built to be an open ecosystem from its inception.

Bluesky was built to be open as a side quest, not a driving mission.

@_elena it's a mess that keeps growing, and we will be left to compost it, too much #techshit, and we all start to stink - why would anyone use the #openweb with that bad smell. The last time this happened was the #encryptionists with the #blockchain mess, there is a big overlap with #bluesky

@_elena thank you for sharing the article.

The same considerations should be honestly made for the #ActivityPub fediverse as well. So we may address them in time. Not all is well. I am writing a blog post on open standards divergence and increasing unattractiveness of an ecosystem that hems itself into a straitjacket of narrow application areas, by the protocol decay we allow to fester. Combined with inadequate work methods to reconcile the tech debt that this incurs. We must go "back to standards" or have an ecosystem based on enabling technologies that are increasingly unattractive to adopt.

@_elena reading that article I also stopped at that sentence. I totally love the fact that nobody think activitypub is a good place to do VC funding of startups ... It proves it's sane enough <3

@_elena they think algorithmically sorting people *in the context of discursive discussion* can be good. They are wrong