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@r1w1s1@snac.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

A discussion that started with GNU/Linux vs Linux
expanded into sudo vs doas, X11 vs Wayland, and how
system design choices age over time.

I already had notes on dwm, st, and X11 usage, and
this thread was the motivation to turn them into a
short, standalone document about the trade-offs
around scope, ecosystem complexity, and sustainability.

Original thread:
https://swiss.social/@LukePhilipps/115973122695310819

Document:
https://git.sr.ht/~r1w1s1/code-notes/blob/main/notes/Understanding_Wayland_X11_and_Minimalism.txt

Blog:
https://4c6e.xyz/

#Unix #Linux #BSD #Wayland #X11 #SystemDesign #Minimalism

https://git.sr.ht/~r1w1s1/code-notes/blob/main/notes/Understanding_Wayland_X11_and_Minimalism.txt
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@thesaigoneer@social.linux.pizza replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@r1w1s1 Nice write up! Although a longtime Wayland user by now, I still appreciate X11 and use it, primarily with dwm. And the jump to Wayland is to fragmented ATM, it is Linux at its best and worst 🤣 Having a choice and having too much choice at the same time. The WM's thriving in that space are the ones with a solid base of contributors, but it's a big ask. Interesting to see where things settle. And what branch of the 'X12' will become prevalent.

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@r1w1s1@snac.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Thanks! Choice is Linux’s strength and burden. X11 + dwm still works great.
Let’s see which Wayland/X12 path becomes boring enough to last.

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@nathanael@exquisite.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@r1w1s1 read the tldr for now —will read the rest later. is there no atom/rss feed?

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@r1w1s1@snac.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

I had one, but removed it 🙂

At the moment Mastodon is basically my RSS feed
for new notes and updates.

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@mason@partychickens.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

@r1w1s1 I think you could expand on this, and I'd enjoy reading an expanded version. An expansion might transition into speaking about the user experience and the benefits of scoped minimalism from that perspective.

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