RE: https://mastodon.ml/@vint/116047761692299673

OK, you know what? Moving from #Discord to #Stoat, as a community that now wants a self-hosted solution, is a tall order.

Sure, you can self-host your own instance ("master server"), but good luck compiling required clients just to get them to connect to it. If you skip this step, you only have official apps that support stoat.chat central instance.

And even if you come around building desktop and Android apps for your community, it's one more manual guide to write and execute. Also, consider that Android app was made early access only 3 days ago.

Is this worth it? I can't tell. Just take into account that such thing is happening right now with the former #Revolt.

It seems that Revolt (an alternative to Discord) has rebranded as Stoat?
https://stoat.chat

#revolt #stoat #discord

RE: https://mastodon.ml/@vint/116047761692299673

OK, you know what? Moving from #Discord to #Stoat, as a community that now wants a self-hosted solution, is a tall order.

Sure, you can self-host your own instance ("master server"), but good luck compiling required clients just to get them to connect to it. If you skip this step, you only have official apps that support stoat.chat central instance.

And even if you come around building desktop and Android apps for your community, it's one more manual guide to write and execute. Also, consider that Android app was made early access only 3 days ago.

Is this worth it? I can't tell. Just take into account that such thing is happening right now with the former #Revolt.

Взял в сопровождение процесс миграции сообщества из #Discord в #Stoat, но смотрите какой затык...

Вы можете захостить инстанс ("мастер-сервер"), но тогда вместе с этим нужно ещё скомпилировать клиенты так, чтобы они подключались к этому самому инстансу. Иначе вы тупо подключаетесь к stoat.chat и имеете то, что имеете (запах централизации по утрам).

https://github.com/stoatchat/for-desktop/issues/43

Даже если вы каким-то чудом прошли через круги ада, скомпильнув настольное и Android приложения под нужды своего сообщества, теперь вам делать ещё одно руководство по установке. При том, что Android приложение было выпущено в ранний доступ только 3 дня назад.

Стоит оно того или нет, не знаю. Просто имейте в виду, что вот такая вещь с ранее известным #Revolt происходит сегодня.

It's that time again ... software #enshitification season.

Regarding #discord 's latest facial scanning / ID requirement. I was looking for alternatives once again. Not so much for me, but my son. The options are not that great, with many applications like #matrix #stout #revolt all missing features so I took another look at https://jami.net and you might want to as well.

Simple signup, free, voice and video calling, screen sharing and it's avail on all mobile and desktops:)

Today in Labor History February 4, 1900: Jacques Prévert was born (1900-1977). Prevert was a poet, surrealist and libertarian socialist who glorified the spirit of rebellion & revolt.

Excerpt from “Song in the Blood”
There are great puddles of blood on the world
Where’s it going all this spilled blood
Murder’s blood. . . war’s blood. . .
Misery’s blood. . .
And the blood of men tortured in prisons. . .
The blood of children calmly tortured by their papa
And their mama. . .
And the blood of men whose heads bleed in
Padded cells
And the roofer’s blood
When the roofer slips and falls from the roof

The Minister of War:
I continue.
A destroyed hospital: ten, a hundred -
and I am modest -
can be rebuilt
And, the project adopted unanimously,
night has fallen,
the hospital was blown up with a few scraps of the neighborhood around.
Day breaks over the city
where the laughter dwindles, dissipates and disappears.
Everything becomes serious again.
Life, like the stock market, resumes its course
and general mobilization continues as normal.

#workingclass #LaborHistory #prévert #Ferlinghetti #antiwar #socialism #poetry #Poet #surrealism #rebellion #books #revolt @bookstadon

Today in Labor History February 4, 1900: Jacques Prévert was born (1900-1977). Prevert was a poet, surrealist and libertarian socialist who glorified the spirit of rebellion & revolt.

Excerpt from “Song in the Blood”
There are great puddles of blood on the world
Where’s it going all this spilled blood
Murder’s blood. . . war’s blood. . .
Misery’s blood. . .
And the blood of men tortured in prisons. . .
The blood of children calmly tortured by their papa
And their mama. . .
And the blood of men whose heads bleed in
Padded cells
And the roofer’s blood
When the roofer slips and falls from the roof

The Minister of War:
I continue.
A destroyed hospital: ten, a hundred -
and I am modest -
can be rebuilt
And, the project adopted unanimously,
night has fallen,
the hospital was blown up with a few scraps of the neighborhood around.
Day breaks over the city
where the laughter dwindles, dissipates and disappears.
Everything becomes serious again.
Life, like the stock market, resumes its course
and general mobilization continues as normal.

#workingclass #LaborHistory #prévert #Ferlinghetti #antiwar #socialism #poetry #Poet #surrealism #rebellion #books #revolt @bookstadon